Baker Mayfield is a Carolina Panther

[Khyber53]

Well, okay, it's done. He'll be wearing Panthers blue and I'll be cheering for him. I hope he has the success with us that Drew Brees had with his second team.

This is the best roll of the dice we've had at QB since Cam went down -- the most upside, the most wins brought to the table, the biggest axe to grind and make a name for himself, with one of the smallest costs. Mayfield played in a much tougher (physically and competition-wise) division than the NFCSouth and he was competitive there until injuries derailed him. He's gone through coaching changes and still outperformed what we've had on the field. He's coming off surgery on his shoulder, but that could have fixed the problems he'd been having. He did play through a lot of pain last year.

Now, that being said... 

If Mayfield doesn't work here, Rhule will have to pack up and move. It's just that simple. In three seasons, Rhule has had three different first round draft pick QBs -- Bridgewater (32nd), Darnold (3rd) and Mayfield (1). All three were veterans on the field, two of whom had posted winning seasons in their careers and had been praised for their abilities. If you can't coach with basically three shots at a 1st rounder QB and plenty of pro tape on them, then you can't do the job.

Good luck to Baker, I really want to see him shine here. I think if anyone needed a new home, he sure did.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Thats what I would do with Corral not with a 5th year vet like baker.  He needs wins and stats to get a new deal. 

I'm not comfortable using wins and losses to judge individual players in a team sport.

Coaches and GMs? Yeah (with a few qualifications) but not individual players...including quarterbacks.

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I would tag his ass and see if he can do it again.  If he can then he earns a contract.  If not then we cut him lose with no additional financial loss (outside of that big tag hit for the year).  

Do you not see how that is creating a headache?  

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

What does Dr. Lunker think of all this?

Has he posted a tweet and tagged disgraced former UNC basketball coach Matt Doherty yet?

He was on the Garoppolo train, I think.

Also pretty sure he predicted there was no way Cleveland would give up Mayfield because they needed him in case of Watson's suspension

[Darknight]

Steve Smith is rollin ova in his grave right now 

[Tr3ach]

4 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

That's the problem. I can't see the long term plan here. 

He plays really well, hes the potential long term qb.  He plays bad, he walks at the end the year and Matt got to not be rushed and learn the playbook and he will be ready step in.  Either of those are potential long term plans.  Those are pretty much the only two scenarios and I don't see either being especially bad.

[Jared Patterson]

LOLOL @ this franchise and the hornets franchise is all I have to say....

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, poundaway said:

Cleveland didn't have the best OL in football when they were the worst team in the league. 

The point is, Baker is not going to perform better in Carolina than he did in Cleveland because the OL, RB contingent and WR group were very very good during his time there.  He didn't throw for that many yards in 2020 anyway.  Teddy had more yards here in 2020.  Cleveland was one of the best running teams in he league.

I'm not saying Baker sucks.  I'm saying its unlikely that Baker will play better here.  He's better than Sam, its just hard to say how much.  Sam never, ever, had the #1 OL in the NFL at the end of the end of the season.  Ever.    What would Baker's career look like at the Jets and then Carolina last year?

Baker has proven he can play in the league, Darnold has not.  That's the biggest difference to me.  They both went to shitty organizations and Baker found success where Darnold could not.  Darnold even went to another franchise with the same results. 

[jayboogieman]

1 hour ago, NAS said:

Time to offload Darnold

For what, some cheerwine and moonpies?

[Captroop]

ITT: I learn that apparently half the board thought Matt Corral was the second coming of Christ and Baker is standing in the way of his apotheosis to instant football godhood.

I'm excited about Corral too. But he's a third round rookie. Getting a year on the bench can only be good for him. And an instant upgrade at QB is definitely good for the Panthers.

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Do you not see how that is creating a headache?  

So your biggest concern is that he MIGHT play too GOOD???  Do you see how you are creating a headache?

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Tr3ach said:

He plays really well, hes the potential long term qb.  He plays bad, he walks at the end the year and Matt got to not be rushed and learn the playbook and he will be ready step in.  Either of those are potential long term plans.  Those are pretty much the only two scenarios and I don't see either being especially bad.

theres 3 scenarios, you left off simply average

 

What if he has a 2020 type average year?  Winning 8-9 games.  What the fug do you do then?  Keep rhule, resign baker, let him walk, franchise him?  Like I said its not a plan just creating issues down the road

[Carl Spackler]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He was on the Garoppolo train, I think.

Also pretty sure he predicted there was no way Cleveland would give up Mayfield because they needed him in case of Watson's suspension

Sounds like he'll continue his self-imposed banishment to Hornets threads.

[rippadonn]