Per Jonathan Alexander, Browns were willing to eat 50% of Bakers salary($9m) and Panthers said no. Apparently, the max we want to take is $5m, playing hardball with them.

[SizzleBuzz]

On 6/4/2022 at 6:38 PM, Julio said:

Said it on his interview in Julian Council’s Locked On podcast. Joe Person previously reported that the Browns were only willing to take on 2-3m, so quite a difference.

None of the local "reporters" have any legit/real sources...

...they're just winging it .

Edited June 6, 2022 by SizzleBuzz

[rayzor]

5 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

None of the local "reporters" say anything that I like so they are all garbage.

 

[kungfoodude]

6 hours ago, rayzor said:

 

For all the talk of "legit" sources, I don't think he has proposed any sources we should be listening to. 

Considering how often we hear Panthers internal moves or prospective moves blasted in the media, doesn't seem like sources are much of a problem in that organization. 

[mrcompletely11]

Has it been explained yet why there wasnt a straight Baker for Darnold trade?

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Has it been explained yet why there wasnt a straight Baker for Darnold trade?

Not sure it really needs too much explaining. They are ultimately trying to accomplish two things:

1. Jettison a toxic player.

2. Clear salary cap space.

Trading for Darnold straight up immediately torpedoes the second goal. 

They have backup QB's that are far better than Darnold so there is also the element of Darnold literally not being useful at all. It's very likely even if they did agree to the deal they would just cut him anyway.

The only way Carolina is going to be able to get rid of Sam is to pay most of his salary or give up a pick. He is a terrible player on an even worse contract(even at just 1 year).

[mrcompletely11]

29 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Not sure it really needs too much explaining. They are ultimately trying to accomplish two things:

1. Jettison a toxic player.

2. Clear salary cap space.

Trading for Darnold straight up immediately torpedoes the second goal. 

They have backup QB's that are far better than Darnold so there is also the element of Darnold literally not being useful at all. It's very likely even if they did agree to the deal they would just cut him anyway.

The only way Carolina is going to be able to get rid of Sam is to pay most of his salary or give up a pick. He is a terrible player on an even worse contract(even at just 1 year).

I see the cap space angle but at some point they have to realize he is going to cost money one way or the other

[rebelrouser]

You bring in Baker when you have a complete team except for qb and his good not great ability can get you in the playoffs. We aren't that. What would Baker realistically do for us? Two more wins and a worse draft pick and Corral less developed? Why?

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

You bring in Baker when you have a complete team except for qb and his good not great ability can get you in the playoffs. We aren't that. What would Baker realistically do for us? Two more wins and a worse draft pick and Corral less developed? Why?

I agree.  I would just start corral from day one and see what’s there.   Adding baker doesn’t do squat but for some reason this trade speculation will not stop

[kungfoodude]

43 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I see the cap space angle but at some point they have to realize he is going to cost money one way or the other

Who is he and they in that post?

Baker and the Browns or Darnold and the Panthers?

[kungfoodude]

40 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

You bring in Baker when you have a complete team except for qb and his good not great ability can get you in the playoffs. We aren't that. What would Baker realistically do for us? Two more wins and a worse draft pick and Corral less developed? Why?

Keep in mind that we are coming off two straight 5 win seasons so literally any improvement might buy a coach on the hot seat more time.

For the franchise and our future, it probably doesn't move the needle much unless Baker has some sort of unexpected renaissance here. 

This move is more about trying to not get fired, IMO.

[mrcompletely11]

18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Who is he and they in that post?

Baker and the Browns or Darnold and the Panthers?

Both lol

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Both lol

Yeah but we are both stuck with those contracts. Baker at least might have some value, albeit minimal. Sam has none.

[RumHam]

we have how much cap space?

Sign Cam Newton.

[Jackie Lee]

3 minutes ago, RumHam said:

we have how much cap space?

Sign Cam Newton.

-$30M next year if we don't roll over the majority of what's sitting there now.