OLED?

[onmyown]

In the market for a new TV. Budget is about $1500. Been looking at the Sony A80J and LG C1 (I game) 65 inch.

I have zero experience with OLEDs and my main concern is how dark everyone says they are.

Is this true, are they too dark for a semi bright room, should I just get a high grade normal LCD like the X95J? Anyone want to share their thoughts/experience with OLED?

I game 50% of the time and movies the other half.

 

[thefuzz]

I'm actually in the market at well...but looking for a 75+...haven't bought a TV in 8 years, no clue where to start these days.

[onmyown]

42 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

I'm actually in the market at well...but looking for a 75+...haven't bought a TV in 8 years, no clue where to start these days.

Basically you want a full array/QLED - (companies all have different names for it) which is basically the best standard LCD or the best on market which is a OLED.

Downfalls of the OLED are the lighting isn’t as bright. Big factor is it causing burn in (due to OLED individual lighting sources). Though they are working on that and the the future is basically a bright OLEDs.

But for now it’s a less bright OLED looking amazing in pitch black movie rooms or a full array for any lighting.

I am leaning towards the full array but I am going to the store to check out if it will be a problem. If it’s not, OLED is the way to go.

[hepcat]

I work in professional AV. OLED is LG and QLED is Samsung. Either are fine consumer options. I wouldn't buy another brand of TV other than those two. 

[onmyown]

9 minutes ago, hepcat said:

I work in professional AV. OLED is LG and QLED is Samsung. Either are fine consumer options. I wouldn't buy another brand of TV other than those two. 

Uh…you may want to get re certified. 

Neither QLED or OLED is brand specific. It’s a type of TV/panel.

 

[onmyown]

Also Samsung is compete trash. Most reputable critics know it’s between LG and Sony. With some random models from Panasonic and Phillips…but for the most part it’s Sony and LG.

[hepcat]

13 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Uh…you may want to get re certified. 

Neither QLED or OLED is brand specific. It’s a type of TV/panel.

 

Lol bro. Those are the tech the companies sell and market. I’ve never seen LG sell a QLED display. Never said they are brand specific. 

Edited June 2, 2022 by hepcat

[Brooklyn 3.0]

In my experience there is no "one" screen type that will blow away another. You get what you pay for though. But there's no secret product out there or everyone would own it. 4k, 8k, blah blah blah. It's all roughly the same. Not to mention, the human eye plays a great deal to do with what we can even get out of this tech.

[onmyown]

25 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

In my experience there is no "one" screen type that will blow away another. You get what you pay for though. But there's no secret product out there or everyone would own it. 4k, 8k, blah blah blah. It's all roughly the same. Not to mention, the human eye plays a great deal to do with what we can even get out of this tech.

I’m some ways I agree…but if you think OLED and LCD are even close, may be time to visit the ol’ opto.

 

1 hour ago, hepcat said:

Lol bro. Those are the tech the companies sell and market. I’ve never seen LG sell a QLED display. Never said they are brand specific. 

You don’t see how you worded that a bit off? No one knew you were going to enlighten us on what companies made the technology…because to a regular consumer that is kind of pointless information.

Sony is marketing OLED as is Vizio, Hinsense and maybe it’s TCL market QLED, someone else is doing nano, there is another called full array and another called ‘mini LED’ who cares?

I was more looking for a recommendation/experience and so for that you say LG for OLED and my question would be to share what really matters and is useful… WHY? That may be more useful than ‘they’re both fine’.

I know Sony buys their OLED from LG but in looking at Sony’s top end OLED…it looks much better than LG and Sony appears to be way ahead of LG in terms of making a bright OLED.

Edited June 2, 2022 by onmyown

[hepcat]

25 minutes ago, onmyown said:

I’m some ways I agree…but if you think OLED and LCD are even close, may be time to visit the ol’ opto.

 

You don’t see how you worded that a bit off? No one knew you were going to enlighten us on what companies made the technology…because to a regular consumer that is kind of pointless information.

Sony is marketing OLED as is Vizio, Hinsense and maybe it’s TCL market QLED, someone else is doing nano, there is another called full array and another called ‘mini LED’ who cares?

I was more looking for a recommendation/experience and so for that you say LG for OLED and my question would be to share what really matters and is useful… WHY? That may be more useful than ‘they’re both fine’.

I know Sony buys their OLED from LG but in looking at Sony’s top end OLED…it looks much better than LG and Sony appears to be way ahead of LG in terms of making a bright OLED.

At the consumer level LG and Samsung are pretty close in quality. The contrast ratio and refresh rates are more what you want to look if you really want to be discerning about picture quality 

[KSpan]

With respect to your choice, how bright is your room/is the TV in direct sunlight and what do you value most in a TV (brightness, deep blacks, etc)? We bought a Sony X95J LED for the living room and A80CJ (the Costco version, but exactly the same as the A80J) for the basement, and while I give the nod to the OLED overall they both have their strengths that made them the best choice for the rooms they're in. I primarily game on mine (Rocket League, Aliens: Fireteam Elite, Madden, Minecraft w/ the kids) and it's fantastic, an appreciable step up from the X900E it replaced (which was very good in its own right). Gets plenty bright, though not as bright as the X95J, and the contrast is exquisite.

I'm partial to Sony's processing but looked hard at the C1 vs the A80J due to the 'C1 for gaming' gospel. The C1 does offer more 2.1 ports and some other minor features, but overall the A80J just had the edge in picture quality and that's what matters most to me. I'm pretty sure I'd have been happy with the C1 but I have zero regrets in getting the Sony. 

Keep in mind also that the 65" A80J has a matte coating and not the semi-gloss, which does slightly reduce perceived contrast in high-lighting situations but isn't a major factor in the dark.

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, KSpan said:

With respect to your choice, how bright is your room/is the TV in direct sunlight and what do you value most in a TV (brightness, deep blacks, etc)? We bought a Sony X95J LED for the living room and A80CJ (the Costco version, but exactly the same as the A80J) for the basement, and while I give the nod to the OLED overall they both have their strengths that made them the best choice for the rooms they're in. I primarily game on mine (Rocket League, Aliens: Fireteam Elite, Madden, Minecraft w/ the kids) and it's fantastic, an appreciable step up from the X900E it replaced (which was very good in its own right). Gets plenty bright, though not as bright as the X95J, and the contrast is exquisite.

I'm partial to Sony's processing but looked hard at the C1 vs the A80J due to the 'C1 for gaming' gospel. The C1 does offer more 2.1 ports and some other minor features, but overall the A80J just had the edge in picture quality and that's what matters most to me. I'm pretty sure I'd have been happy with the C1 but I have zero regrets in getting the Sony. 

Keep in mind also that the 65" A80J has a matte coating and not the semi-gloss, which does slightly reduce perceived contrast in high-lighting situations but isn't a major factor in the dark.

Nice, this is good info. TV won’t be in direct sunlight but the room isn’t as dark as a basement. It’s average I guess you’d say? Has one large window coming from the side but that’s it. I’d say picture is more important but not at the expense of not being able to see it 50% of the day just because it’s clear and sunny.

I’ve always loved Sony’s quality and admittedly never owned a LG. Samsungs for me have been utter trash. I am like you and looked at the processing. I have asked around and everyone says the C1 over Sony if I spend at least a quarter of my time gaming, which I do. Yet I still like the Sony, this puts my mind at ease should it be my choice.

[KSpan]

3 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Nice, this is good info. TV won’t be in direct sunlight but the room isn’t as dark as a basement. It’s average I guess you’d say? Has one large window coming from the side but that’s it. I’d say picture is more important but not at the expense of not being able to see it 50% of the day just because it’s clear and sunny.

I’ve always loved Sony’s quality and admittedly never owned a LG. Samsungs for me have been utter trash. I am like you and looked at the processing. I have asked around and everyone says the C1 over Sony if I spend at least a quarter of my time gaming, which I do. Yet I still like the Sony, this puts my mind at ease should it be my choice.

The A80J does just fine in typical room lighting, so I don't mean to imply that it's dim. It gets squintingly-bright at times with the lights off and no complaints with the lights on. The direct sunlight question had as much to do with direct sun being hard on OLED panels as it does the brightness.

I found this video to be a helpful perspective when making my decisions. Our living room gets direct afternoon/evening sun and is a huge light box, so while an OLED would probably be visible it just didn't make a ton of sense. I'm still very pleased with the X95J and have no complaints, having bought it knowing the weaknesses of LED panels (there is some blooming at times but it's better than I expected). It also gets eye-searingly bright even at 16ft and the colors can leap off the screen at times with a bit more vibrancy than the OLED due to this brightness, but the A 80CJ just has a depth and 3D feel to it at times that an LED can't match. Its all about what's most important to you at this point. 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Hell, they all look awesome at home. Yeah, that TV that's 5x the price might look better in the store side by side but guess what? That TV that's 5x the price won't be right beside my budget TV in my den.