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[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

Hekker is a great but aging punter on the downside of his career. Happy to have him.

Bozeman and Corbett are both top 100 free agents in the prime of their careers in the position group we needed the most help by far.

I don't know how it's even a comparison that can be made with a straight face.

Well consider how much our punting struggled last year(28th in the NFL) it may have a big impact if our offense struggles similarly to how it did in 2021. 

Won't argue that OL is the position of the most need but I would argue that Bozeman and Corbett will have a bigger impact on the OL group than Hekker will on our punting unit. I doubt those will even be comparable. 

[MasterAwesome]

6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, most people are rightfully salty because he is the worst QB we have had in a stretch of pretty bad QB's. We also traded a king's ransom of picks(relatively speaking) for a guy that wasn't even worth a 7th rounder.

But, I was against the move from day one because he was so CLEARLY a terrible QB from his time in NY. 

I have never been able to fathom why people look at him and have hope. He is the classic example of a guy that simply cannot process anything he sees on the field. It isn't rare to see but it's normally guys you draft late that don't make a roster, not top 5 overall picks.

Also, he is far from the most hated Panthers in history. We've had some real doozies in that category.

Yeah I totally agree about Sam.  I don't wanna get in the weeds about him specifically because I was just tossing out a random example of a "positive" comment that would be faced with severe criticism/borderline bullying on these boards.  That comment in no way reflects my personal thoughts on Sam.  That dude in particular who quoted me, I swear has some kind of internal decision tree algorithm where he scours the boards for any mention of Sam Darnold: "Is comment negative? If yes, then -> flame reaction.  If no, then -> respond "SAM DARNOLD LOVER!!!!".  Even neutral comments gets blasted by him.  I would know, because I assure you I haven't said a single remotely positive thing about Darnold in roughly a year and yet he has quoted me several times to lump me in with the 1 or 2 "stans" that Darnold has left in here.

The Huddle sometimes seems like an ass-backwards microcosm of society where people wear their negativity like a badge of honor while cheery or positive posters are seen as social pariahs.  Trust me, I get that we suck and have sucked for a few consecutive years and there is a lot to be upset about.  But at some point, it's just excessive and gratuitous and draining. 

If I worked a crappy job that provided terrible pay and benefits and overworked its employees, it's still gonna be annoying as hell to work with a coworker who, for 8 hours a day, complains nonstop about how crappy it is to work there.  It's like, yeah I get it dude, I'm living it too...can we talk about something else other than how miserable it is working here?  You ask that guy if he saw the new Doctor Strange movie and he's like "Naw I can't afford a movie ticket with what they're paying me at this POS job!!" or you'll ask him if he has any plans for Christmas and he says "Nope I can't even afford gas with what they're paying me at this POS job so I'm just staying home and recovering from the long hours at this POS job!!".  Like every attempt at conversation pivots to how terrible the job is...that's how it feels on the Huddle.  And hey, the "toxic positivity" crowd I mentioned in my previous post would be your coworkers who show up to this crappy job every day like "What a wonderful day to be at this amazing company!" and "Hey quit complaining about your job! You should be grateful to be here!" - these people are obnoxious too which I have acknowledged.  I just VERY rarely see those kind of people here.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Yeah I totally agree about Sam.  I don't wanna get in the weeds about him specifically because I was just tossing out a random example of a "positive" comment that would be faced with severe criticism/borderline bullying on these boards.  That comment in no way reflects my personal thoughts on Sam.  That dude in particular who quoted me, I swear has some kind of internal decision tree algorithm where he scours the boards for any mention of Sam Darnold: "Is comment negative? If yes, then -> flame reaction.  If no, then -> respond "SAM DARNOLD LOVER!!!!".  Even neutral comments gets blasted by him.  I would know, because I assure you I haven't said a single remotely positive thing about Darnold in roughly a year and yet he has quoted me several times to lump me in with the 1 or 2 "stans" that Darnold has left in here.

The Huddle sometimes seems like an ass-backwards microcosm of society where people wear their negativity like a badge of honor while cheery or positive posters are seen as social pariahs.  Trust me, I get that we suck and have sucked for a few consecutive years and there is a lot to be upset about.  But at some point, it's just excessive and gratuitous and draining. 

If I worked a crappy job that provided terrible pay and benefits and overworked its employees, it's still gonna be annoying as hell to work with a coworker who, for 8 hours a day, complains nonstop about how crappy it is to work there.  It's like, yeah I get it dude, I'm living it too...can we talk about something else other than how miserable it is working here?  You ask that guy if he saw the new Doctor Strange movie and he's like "Naw I can't afford a movie ticket with what they're paying me at this POS job!!" or you'll ask him if he has any plans for Christmas and he says "Nope I can't even afford gas with what they're paying me at this POS job so I'm just staying home and recovering from the long hours at this POS job!!".  Like every attempt at conversation pivots to how terrible the job is...that's how it feels on the Huddle.  And hey, the "toxic positivity" crowd I mentioned in my previous post would be your coworkers who show up to this crappy job every day like "What a wonderful day to be at this amazing company!" and "Hey quit complaining about your job! You should be grateful to be here!" - these people are obnoxious too which I have acknowledged.  I just VERY rarely see those kind of people here.

The supposedly positive posters are also rarely involved unless they are complaining about the negative posters, so it's basically the same thing. The equivalent of a co-worker literally spending 8 hours complaining about a co-worker who complains too much. 

It's also the offseason, so the lack of general information usually brings out the worst in the Huddle. That really never changes.

[MasterAwesome]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The supposedly positive posters are also rarely involved unless they are complaining about the negative posters, so it's basically the same thing. The equivalent of a co-worker literally spending 8 hours complaining about a co-worker who complains too much. 

It's also the offseason, so the lack of general information usually brings out the worst in the Huddle. That really never changes.

Well, I don't know that I would agree with that comparison.  IMO there's the coworker complaining for 8 hours a day, then there's the "positive" coworker who gets fed up and makes a comment like "Dude, do you have to complain so much??".  Then maybe they'll go back-and-forth for a bit during that spat, but I don't think there's anyone who has made it their mission to go around combating negativity full-time (i.e. spending 8 hours complaining about a co-worker who complains too much).  Except maybe iamhubby lol but he is exactly who I would consider one of those anti-criticism "toxic positivity" guys.  And the dude literally got banned for 24 hours as a result of it lol.  So that kind of set a strange precedent that persistent complaining about the team = OK, but persistent complaining about complaining = bannable.  But then complaining about complaining about complaining is also OK I guess, considering people continued to beat up on iamhubby during his 24 hour ban while complaining about how toxic and annoying he is.

Maybe I'm weird but the offseason seems like the ideal time to dial back on the negativity, not ramp it up...no?  I mean we're 0-0, clean slate in the standings, just brought in new talent at key positions via draft/FA, lots of coaching overhaul, etc.  I get that we still have Rhule and Darnold which is obviously going to put a cap on how optimistic we truly can be, but still...this is our opportunity to put the last terrible season behind and look towards a fresh start.