Robby or Robbie Anderson no show OTA’s

[kungfoodude]

42 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

For me, Robbie missing OTAs is not acceptable.  We have a new system and a struggling QB and a rookie QB.  He's the oldest WR veteran we have.  He should be setting the example.

I know OTAs are not mandatory but he should be the 1st WR out the door for these younger WRs.

Just my opinion though. 

Robby doesn't strike me as a highly motivated player. Not that I don't think he doesn't put work in but I don't think he is out there working to be the best at his position every offseason. 

[pantherclaw]

IMO, Robbie has always been a "me first" player. Before he was even a Panther. This is who he's always has been, and will always be. 

 

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Robby doesn't strike me as a highly motivated player. Not that I don't think he doesn't put work in but I don't think he is out there working to be the best at his position every offseason. 

he has always needed to get in the weight room IMO.   That's always been the sign IMO he was just coasting on his god given talent and cool with it.  

Which I mean, that's cool.  More power to him.  The league is slammed full of guys who are just cashing checks like so much of the rest of the population does.   

[DaveThePanther2008]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

he has always needed to get in the weight room IMO.   That's always been the sign IMO he was just coasting on his god given talent and cool with it.  

Which I mean, that's cool.  More power to him.  The league is slammed full of guys who are just cashing checks like so much of the rest of the population does.   

Kind of reminds me about KK Short.  Is he even in the league anymore.  I remember his rookie season when he was toe to toe in stats with Aaron Donald.  He got his big paycheck and disappeared. 

[iamhubby1]

2 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Kind of reminds me about KK Short.  Is he even in the league anymore.  I remember his rookie season when he was toe to toe in stats with Aaron Donald.  He got his big paycheck and disappeared. 

 

TBF, injuries had a big part of why KK is no longer here.

[kungfoodude]

18 minutes ago, CRA said:

he has always needed to get in the weight room IMO.   That's always been the sign IMO he was just coasting on his god given talent and cool with it.  

Which I mean, that's cool.  More power to him.  The league is slammed full of guys who are just cashing checks like so much of the rest of the population does.   

Yeah, there are plenty of professional athletes who aren't passionate about the sports they play.

[iamhubby1]

25 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Short had a couple good years (2017 was a great year and 2018 was a Probowl year) after he signed the deal. There is only one Donald but Short was still solid after the contract. It was meant to be a 2-3 year deal and he got hurt year 3. The egregious part was deciding to go on a spending spree again and restructuring Short thus making us keep him in 2020 when he should have been an auto release. We spent $13M for a hurt player when we weren’t going to compete. Big waste.

Robby never approached Short’s great seasons and has gotten paid a comparable amount and sure doesn’t appear to be a team guy. WTF were we thinking handing out $64M to Robby, Sam and Thomas when we really didn’t have to do it?

 

That was an inexperienced group, trying to win. They wanted to start their winning culture before they put a team together. It kinda backfired on them. They seem much more patient these days.

 

Look around at the brain trust right now. Do you see these guys doing that? We appear to be improving in that area. If we continue to improve. We may just have something. Even with Rhule

 

We seem to be in a good place right now. If things continue on this trajectory? Who knows?

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, there are plenty of professional athletes who aren't passionate about the sports they play.

Yep. I mean, there are plenty of people with talents at something that makes good money that suck it up and do it for the check. Pro sports provide one helluva check.

 

[top dawg]

So much bullsh¡t in this thread...

[Eric4280]

6 hours ago, Zod said:

He did the same thing last year. It was nothing 

He also did nothing on the field too.

[SetfreexX]

Are we not in the ''voluntary OTA'' window -- I honestly don't know, I haven't been paying attention.

[iamhubby1]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

Well, TBH we really don’t know yet. I like that we appeared to not have wasted money like a drunken sailor the past two years to get us 10 wins total. Also, I don’t think they were going for winning culture. I think in 2020 and 2021 we thought we were close enough that we could use bandaid mediocre vets, guys coming off injuries and reclamation projects to keep buts in the seats. We didn’t sign Tom Brady to install a winning culture, we signed Teddy and Sam.

My biggest issue looking back a couple years, ignoring 2019, is that even last year with Fitt and Rhule and our cap specialist we still made egregious mistakes. We ended up getting way less impact from the 2021 draft because we did end up with a lot of nickels and we also almost completely ignored OL. The FA signings, extensions and trades were terrible outside of Reddick. I think he chose us knowing Snow would get him stats for his next deal.

I like what we did this draft and off-season because we took OL seriously and we were patient. You kind of have to be patient when the owner says we won’t give up next years 1st or 2nd and you traded away your 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Got a bit of luck as well with all D before our pick, but you hope we anticipated that that might happen and that there would be a bit of a glut at available QBs (with Jimmy, Foles and Mayfield not traded or signed) to make waiting on Corral a great call.

Again, I think the draft fell in our favor after we blew all those picks, but we were forced to be patient so I’m holding off on the laurels until we can do that consistently and Corral actually plays well. If Corral doesn’t then it was a bad draft even if Iky is a stud. We had pick 6, so we should get a stud, but you can’t build a team 1 impact starter per draft.

 

This regime has made mistakes. They all do. What I like is that these guys seem to be willing to rectify their mistakes. Or at least address them.

 

They did give out goofy contracts to the wrong players. Lately? Not so much

They did use future draft picks unwisely. Lately? Not so much.

They did have an inexperienced coaching staff. They improved that area.

And they have improved the FO big time.

 

I see a bright future for a team trending in the right direction.

 

I feel they are learning and improving. You seem to think they are lucky to be barely treading water. (Or at least that is how I read that.)

 

Two sides to every story.

[Jackie Lee]

1 hour ago, SetfreexX said:

Are we not in the ''voluntary OTA'' window -- I honestly don't know, I haven't been paying attention.

Yes. Last year Robby was with his personal trainer instead of voluntary OTA's. He was already in the building the last couple weeks so it's that big of a deal at an internal level. TMJ and Shi need the extra reps anyway. 

[iamhubby1]

2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

You might not get into so many arguments if you realized we didn’t really say two different sides of a story. We basically agreed that this off-season was better than the last two. The only real difference is that you are already giving them the benefit of the doubt that everything is going well now. I’m just not quite ready because no one was banging down doors to hire the coaches we added, Corral is still a 3rd rounder and history isn’t on his side, the Ian Thomas contract just happened and we still did trade a future day 2 pick. I’m hopeful we are trending the right way, especially since we were actually patient and seemed to have realized we aren’t a playoff contender yet.

 

Yes, I think this team from top to bottom, is improving. 

 

We added well respected coaches, with a results filled resume.

 

Everyone knows Corall is a 3rd rounder. But, he was the best QB in the draft.

 

We used the 3rd to move up for the best QB in the draft. 

 

The Thomas deal is not worth getting worked up over. To me at least. It will not stop us from doing anything.

 

I see hope for the future. Not sure why so many folks get so upset over this fact?