Charlotte “unlikely” to contribute taxpayer money for new Panthers headquarters

[4Corners]

12 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

He would do the area a favor by moving this garbage franchise somewhere else. Hopefully far away.   

Where are the moving spots? San Antonio, St Louis, Toronto?

I never thought I’d see a team in Vegas or LA because the NFL owners LOVED to threaten tax payers with the “I’ll move to LA” trump card. 
 

there def looks like there an ugly mess headed our way with the panthers stadium. 

[BIGH2001]

Sizzle buzz always has tepper’s nuts in his mouth. I think he might actually BE Tepper or maybe Rhule.

[Davidson Deac II]

13 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Tax incentives for "economic impact" is socialism under another name. It is the government favoring one business over another. Sports teams are just the most visible portion of a corporate world that has learned to use the prisoner's dilemma as an effective tool to extort funds from the public purse.

Prisoner's Dilemma Definition (investopedia.com)

Don't care.  Incentives are necessary if you want your community to thrive.   Just as building roads and infrastructure are necessary.   Otherwise, we can watch the best and brightest move away to places that do provide incentives.  

I do think that sports teams get more than they deserve as they don't bring in as much revenue as they think they do.  But I support incentives in general as a necessary evil.  

Edited May 7, 2022 by Davidson Deac II

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Don't care.  Its necessary if you want your community to thrive.  Otherwise, we can watch the best and brightest move away to places that do provide incentives.  

At least direct the handouts to areas that create good, long-term jobs. A new football stadium ain't it.

[Jackie Lee]

17 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

There is nothing more American than a filthy rich white guy shaking down a city struggling to pay front line workers, teachers, and police/fire depts to build an obscene and excessive mega stadium for his sports team.  Disgusting 

Oh but hey he donated like $10M to public libraries so it's all good. He probably even got some plaques with his foundation name hung on the walls

[PantherPhann89]

16 hours ago, motocross_cat said:

Uh your going to want to feild a team thats not trash first big dog.

You mean like previous NFL Dream Teams? 

[Shotgun]

35 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Where are the moving spots? San Antonio, St Louis, Toronto?

I never thought I’d see a team in Vegas or LA because the NFL owners LOVED to threaten tax payers with the “I’ll move to LA” trump card. 
 

there def looks like there an ugly mess headed our way with the panthers stadium. 

Charlotte shouldn't give Tepper anything. It would be up to him to find a new location...good luck.  

[Happy Panther]

1 hour ago, 4Corners said:

Where are the moving spots? San Antonio, St Louis, Toronto?

. 

Mexico City, SLC, London, El Paso. There are dozens of cities that would take a franchise.

[rippadonn]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, spending TONS of public dollars to create some primarily slave wage level service industry jobs is a great investment.

Sports fans way overestimate the impact of sports teams on the local economy. Industries that create good paying jobs don't give AF about the local sports teams. The vast majority of the folks looking to relocate don't give AF about the local sport teams. It's icing on the cake.

Had a business partner who made multi million dollar business off serving Nascar and it's fans.

Those aren't slave wages. Restaurants are having to pay people a living wage now, not more minimum wage there either.

Where is this slave labor? So the impact of the speedway, BofA and Spectrum center is overestimated.

I go through uptown at least twice a week. I'm not overestimating anything. Those structures alone provide good paying jobs not to mention the business they all generate.

Take the Panthers, Hornets, and Nascar away from Charlotte, what would you have? Raleigh.

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Had a business partner who made multi million dollar business off serving Nascar and it's fans.

Those aren't slave wages. Restaurants are having to pay people a living wage now, not more minimum wage there either.

Where is this slave labor? So the impact of the speedway, BofA and Spectrum center is overestimated.

I go through uptown at least twice a week. I'm not overestimating anything. Those structures alone provide good paying jobs not to mention the business they all generate.

Take the Panthers, Hornets, and Nascar away from Charlotte, what would you have? Raleigh.

Yeas, some business owners will make millions. Already basically said that. But the overall economic benefit to the community as a whole is minimal at best. The vast majority of those jobs are low paying service sector jobs.

[rippadonn]

The impact our sports and entertainment franchises have on our quality of life here in Charlotte is underestimated.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, rippadonn said:

The impact our sports and entertainment franchises have on our quality of life here in Charlotte is underestimated.

Meh...

My Sunday quality of life improved once I finally stopped watching the Panthers in the last 3-4 weeks of the season and if they stopped playing all the other non-NFL pro sports I wouldn't even notice.

[Donald LaFell]

He’s been pretty terrible so far so I don’t really mind him leaving 

[RJK]

Good. He’s a fuging billionaire, figure it out chief