My Thoughts on the 2022 Draft (Matthias Rant)

[Matthias]

I see a lot of jubilation going on in this forum.  I feel like I got to be the one now to bring this thing back down to reality.  Haha!  I feel like I got to be Denzel Washington up in this bih!

 

 

Now with that said, I'm not going to totally crap on our draft because overall, I love the first pick.  We had all three of our top tackle choices available, which no one could have imagined.  We took the guy that was the most touted.  Considering we want to be a majority rush team, he was the best of the three.  Ekwonu may go on to be Hall of Fame worthy.  I'm so glad we didn't do the stupid thing and pick a QB at that spot.  With all the "experts" mocking Pickett and Willis to us at 6, it had me sweating bullets.  Yet cooler heads prevailed there.  Other picks I liked include Cade Mays, and possibly Brandon Smith.  The other guys I'm kind of meh on.  Which brings me to the guy everyone is all the rage about. Matt "Mother Trucking" Corral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Listen, there's nothing wrong with being excited to see what cats will do and having positive expectations.  However, y'all are going over the top with it.  Can we please temper (or Tepper) our expectations?  Now for personal feelings about this dude, and really about this QB class, I wouldn't bet my future on him.  I'm a patient gun.  I was fully reserved in getting our franchise guy in the following draft with cats like Anthony Richardson and Will Levis showing up.  Yet you know, our sorry coaching staff said they wanted to draft a QB, and that is what it is.  I wasn't against it, but I hate they traded up for one, especially a freaking third!  These guys were falling off the edge of a cliff. (I think Howell went in the early 4th round)  So of course as we saw, we picked Corral.  Now I'm looking at this dude, and I see nothing special, at all.  Nothing from his highlights screamed to me, "Oh, this guy is going to light things up!"  This guy will have to add weight to his frame (fat, and not necessarily muscle), he will have to learn how to adjust to a pro level scheme, and just everything about him screams he's not going to be a decent guy anytime soon. 

 

I'm honestly wondering why the hype?  What are folks seeing from his highlights and games, that says he can be a franchise guy?  People say he got a quick release.  Meh.  I'm not giddy about his sidewinding pitches.  Especially at his height.  Fools will be knocking his stuff down at the line like swatting flies.  When people say "Quick release" "Quick release", I'm thinking is this guy Dan Marino?  Nope!   I don't see what the buzz is about.  The truth of the matter is, Corral will not be ready to play this year.  If Darnold absolutely sucks, expect the Panthers to have a bad year, putting us back in the top ten.  If/when that happens, whatever coaching staff or front office we have at that time, we sure as heck better not say to ourselves, "We'll get Matt Corral some help".  Boy, I'm going to freaking explode if we pass on the top QBs next year in favor of sticking it out and developing Corral!  I'm flipping off every mother trucker who try to make an argument for dude in that day, you non delaying gratification bastards! 

 

I will say about this year, it's hard to see us having a bad season with the upgrades we made on the O-line and adding D'onta Foreman to the mix.  Darnold will have to really suck all over the field for us to get another top 10 or even top 5 pick.  If we do end up missing the playoffs and have a mid 1st next year, I would trade that and a couple of more 1sts for a guy like Anthony Richardson.  That's just me.  I wouldn't waste any time playing around with Matt Corral, and that's certainly the case if we are top 5.

Edited May 3, 2022 by Matthias

[frankw]

[top dawg]

36 minutes ago, Matthias said:

I see a lot of jubilation going on in this forum.  I feel like I got to be the one now to bring this thing back down to reality.  Haha!  I feel like I got to be Denzel Washington up in this bih!

 

 

Now with that said, I'm not going to totally crap on our draft because overall, I love the first pick.  We had all three of our top tackle choices available, which no one could have imagined.  We took the guy that was the most touted.  Considering we want to be a majority rush team, he was the best of the three.  Ekwonu may go on to be Hall of Fame worthy.  I'm so glad we didn't do the stupid thing and pick a QB at that spot.  With all the "experts" mocking Pickett and Willis to us at 6, it had me sweating bullets.  Yet cooler heads prevailed there.  Other picks I liked include Cade Mays, and possibly Brandon Smith.  The other guys I'm kind of meh on.  Which brings me to the guy everyone is all the rage about. Matt "Mother Trucking" Corral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Listen, there's nothing wrong with being excited to see what cats will do and having positive expectations.  However, y'all are going over the top with it.  Can we please temper (or Tepper) our expectations?  Now for personal feelings about this dude, and really about this QB class, I wouldn't bet my future on him.  I'm a patient gun.  I was fully reserved in getting our franchise guy in the following draft with cats like Anthony Richardson and Will Levis showing up.  Yet you know, our sorry coaching staff said they wanted to draft a QB, and that is what it is.  I wasn't against it, but I hate they traded up for one, especially a freaking third!  These guys were falling off the edge of a cliff. (I think Howell went in the early 4th round)  So of course as we saw, we picked Corral.  Now I'm looking at this dude, and I see nothing special, at all.  Nothing from his highlights screamed to me, "Oh, this guy is going to light things up!"  This guy will have to add weight to his frame (fat, and not necessarily muscle), he will have to learn how to adjust to a pro level scheme, and just everything about him screams he's not going to be a decent guy anytime soon. 

 

I'm honestly wondering why the hype?  What are folks seeing from his highlights and games, that says he can be a franchise guy?  People say he got a quick release.  Meh.  I'm not giddy about his sidewinding pitches.  Especially at his height.  Fools will be knocking his stuff down at the line like swatting flies.  When people say "Quick release" "Quick release", I'm thinking is this guy Dan Marino?  Nope!   I don't see what the buzz is about.  The truth of the matter is, Corral will not be ready to play this year.  If Darnold absolutely sucks, expect the Panthers to have a bad year, putting us back in the top ten.  If/when that happens, whatever coaching staff or front office we have at that time, we sure as heck better not say to ourselves, "We'll get Matt Corral some help".  Boy, I'm going to freaking explode if we pass on the top QBs next year in favor of sticking it out and developing Corral!  I'm flipping off every mother trucker who try to make an argument for dude in that day, you non delaying gratification bastards! 

 

I will say about this year, it's hard to see us having a bad season with the upgrades we made on the O-line and adding D'onta Foreman to the mix.  Darnold will have to really suck all over the field for us to get another top 10 or even top 5 pick.  If we do end up missing the playoffs and have a mid 1st next year, I would trade that and a couple of more 1sts for a guy like Anthony Richardson.  That's just me.  I wouldn't waste any time playing around with Matt Corral, and that's certainly the case if we are top 5.

Thirds can easily be recouped. Sometimes you get several thirds with compensatory picks. 

Basically, when you're in our position, you have to take swings. Corral has the arm talent and mobility to be an exceptional QB. The real question is whether playing in Kiffin's system has somehow obscured obstacles that will impede Corral from being successful, and, within that same vein from a fan's perspectives, whether Kiffin's system has somehow done a Jedi mind trick on some fairly experienced football guys (especially the OC). I don't think so. Corral's talent justified a higher pick from my perspective. If that talent is realized, then a third is a small price to pay. You have to take the swing. It's a good gamble.

[joemac]

TL;DR

[Ship]

Corral is the exact same height and weight as Lamar Jackson. He's not too small.

[Jaxel]

Don't poop on the parade bro - 

[davos]

I really haven't seen where anyone is christening Corral our franchise QB.  You're countering very limited overreactions to him being selected.  Most of what I see are people hopeful given his traits but aware of his weaknesses, not banking on him being franchise saving.  

I think we'd all love to see Stroud, Levis, Young, Richardson, etc. come next year if he doesn't jump out enough.  

[Jay Roosevelt]

I'm also not convinced Corral is a future franchise QB, but he was well worth taking a shot at considering what we gave up to get him.

[Matthias]

28 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Thirds can easily be recouped. Sometimes you get several thirds with compensatory picks. 

Basically, when you're in our position, you have to take swings. Corral has the arm talent and mobility to be an exceptional QB. The real question is whether playing in Kiffin's system has somehow obscured obstacles that will impede Corral from being successful, and, within that same vein from a fan's perspectives, whether Kiffin's system has somehow done a Jedi mind trick on some fairly experienced football guys (especially the OC). I don't think so. Corral's talent justified a higher pick from my perspective. If that talent is realized, then a third is a small price to pay. You have to take the swing. It's a good gamble.

 

If we do have a bad year, the third will be like a late 2nd.  Every year guys fall to that spot.  I hate giving that up.  Of course I'm never confident we get lucky with compensatory picks.

[Santee_Panther]

Fitt has said in the past he will continue to bring in a new QB every year ideally. 
 

No reason to think we won’t draft one almost every year (hopefully with later and later draft picks). 
 

Would’ve been nice to have not given up any future pics, but nice to have 1, 2, 4 and 5 next year and yet still have addressed top two needs this year with guys some thought could both be first rounders. 

[Matthias]

7 minutes ago, davos said:

I really haven't seen where anyone is christening Corral our franchise QB.  You're countering very limited overreactions to him being selected.  Most of what I see are people hopeful given his traits but aware of his weaknesses, not banking on him being franchise saving.  

I think we'd all love to see Stroud, Levis, Young, Richardson, etc. come next year if he doesn't jump out enough.  

I see many of us are hyping him up.  His talent, from what I've seen in his highlights, is not better than what we saw from guys like Will Grier.

[CanadianCat]

OP Im sure you knew you were going to get crapped on for this post..

 

That said I dont disagree with your logic. Corral is and was not drafted to be the savior. I think people want him to be - because hes not Sam but chances are that he is not.

BUT when you dont have a franchise QB you HAVE to take shots. A 3rd round pick regardless of position is not guaranteed to be a starter. So its not wasting a pick on Corral. Its throwing the dice and taking chances. Its a worth while bet. 

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Matthias said:

Will Grier.

Cutting edge analysis. Big if true.

[CanadianCat]

36 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Thirds can easily be recouped. Sometimes you get several thirds with compensatory picks. 

Basically, when you're in our position, you have to take swings. Corral has the arm talent and mobility to be an exceptional QB.

This is 100% accurate. Low risk, high reward.