Matt Corral is here because of Ben McAdoo

[MasterAwesome]

20 hours ago, Basbear said:

I know some of mcadoos QB history.

but whoever the panther had for the last two years <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< mcadoo

 

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I probably started up talking Joe Brady today when someone randomly started saying Joe Brady was responsible and the reason the Sam Darnold mistake happened. 

I mean, that's not true.  But it's what people do when they are looking to cleanse the people still employed from their mistakes. 

 

Lol are you referring to the first post I quoted above?  Cause that's the one you directly quoted initially that inspired you to jump in and start defending Brady.  In which case your hyperbole about all these supposed Brady haters is on full display...absolutely zero mention of Sam Darnold. And no one is using Brady to deflect any blame from Rhule and the other coaches.  It's absolutely absurd that that's your claim.  Rhule is basically universally hated across these boards.  People have criticized virtually every member of this organization at one point or another but Joe Brady is in unique company as the only one you continue to jump in and defend against these imaginary people saying Joe Brady single-handedly destroyed our entire organization and forced Rhule to make every bad decision he has ever made, and punched 27 puppies while he did it.

You saying that people use Brady to deflect the failures of others seems like incredibly transparent projection considering deflecting from Brady's failures is precisely what you continue to do.  You already seem to have moved the goalposts of your defense from Brady being "impressive" to "hey I just don't think he deserves 100% of the blame for every single one of our failures from the past 2 years while arguing Rhule is perfect in every way".  Like, okay dude lol sure I can agree to that extremely sizzling hot take.  That's a great point.

[Jon Snow]

This thread...

[Basbear]

@MasterAwesome one juicy tid bit for whatever this rhule vs brady/no fire.....no idea or want to find out what happening in here. So to the juice-

 

Joe Brady lost a push-up contest to 68 year old phil snow...I believe in front of the whole team...

[CRA]

44 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Lol are you referring to the first post I quoted above? 

I mean there is literally a post somewhere that claims Joe Brady is the one responsible for Sam Darnold being here.  I’m not going go find where it is lol.  Might be in another thread. Then I might of responded to yours. 
 

All I know Matt Rhule.  No matter what degree Joe Brady sucks has no bearing on that 

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean there is literally a post somewhere that claims Joe Brady is the one responsible for Sam Darnold being here.  I’m not going go find where it is lol.  Might be in another thread. Then I might of responded to yours. 
 

All I know Matt Rhule.  No matter what degree Joe Brady sucks has no bearing on that 

Joe B was a driving voice behind the Teddy Bridgewater signing so it does stand to reason he had input on Sam. Go back and read those articles where he and Matt Rhule talk about Teddy.

[iamhubby1]

And somewhere out there Coach Snow is hiding behind his bed hoping to come out of this alive.

[MasterAwesome]

4 hours ago, CRA said:

I mean there is literally a post somewhere that claims Joe Brady is the one responsible for Sam Darnold being here.  I’m not going go find where it is lol.  Might be in another thread. Then I might of responded to yours. 
 

All I know Matt Rhule.  No matter what degree Joe Brady sucks has no bearing on that 

Yeah don’t worry I think we’ve established by now that the best defense you can muster up of Joe Brady is that “Matt Rhule sucks”. That’s a very brave take. I think we can put this to rest now.

[Peon Awesome]

 

21 hours ago, CRA said:

Getting NFL HC interviews only happens if you are catching the eye and ears of the league.  I suspect they likely were wanting to feel him out for for down the road if he continued to impress and progress.  To say he wasn't impressing is just denying the reality of the talk around him at the time.  Whether you agreed with it or not isn't really relevant.  It existed.  Just or unjust. 

I think the 2021 Panthers were an utter trainwreck. One that really was not recognized properly.   And Urban helped saved Matt Rhule and the Panthers from getting the light on them they would have without Urban.  Because while Panthers were a seasonal shitshow, Urban was a once in a decade type debacle.  

 

Brady getting head coaching interviews was for one reason: teams were obsessed with trying to uncover the next Sean McVay, i.e. undiscovered young offensive mastermind. There was no buzz around Brady being a serious contender for any of those jobs after his interviews and once his body of work was actually evaluated, he couldn't even sniff another OC position.

Brady could become a good OC some day, maybe. But he'll need a ton more experience before I'd feel comfortable handing him the keys to any offense. At the end of the day, his claim to fame is one year as a passing game coordinator for a team with Joe Burrow and two wide receivers who just had the most historic rookie seasons for a wide receiver in NFL history in back to back seasons. Suggests to me that Brady owes them more for his success than the other way around.

[Khaki Lackey]

17 hours ago, Basbear said:

@MasterAwesome one juicy tid bit for whatever this rhule vs brady/no fire.....no idea or want to find out what happening in here. So to the juice-

 

Joe Brady lost a push-up contest to 68 year old phil snow...I believe in front of the whole team...

Yeah, there's no recovering from that. He probably resigned immediately after this but they fired him as a solid so he could collect unemployment until he found a new gig

[CRA]

17 hours ago, frankw said:

Joe B was a driving voice behind the Teddy Bridgewater signing so it does stand to reason he had input on Sam. Go back and read those articles where he and Matt Rhule talk about Teddy.

Teddy B was also the simply the no brainer add given they hired Joe Brady (running a Saints variant O) and had to install an O when COVID hit.    It just made sense.    If you had to bring any vet QB in....Teddy was always to obvious add in that moment given what we were.  Without Brady lobbying for it.  It was easy to identify.   And that worked. 

Signing Teddy to a two year deal wasn't a problem.  They slightly overpaid him but you could almost justify that to get a functional base O up and running in such a weird window.  

We inititally were on the correct rebuild path.  Sign Teddy.  Get a base O up and functioning. Draft a QB.  Drafted QB takes over in year two and you see what you got and move from there.  But we got off the obvious path.   And part of that was a completely green staff and they botched the early rebuild but it was intitally set up properly. 

 

[Jon Snow]

17 hours ago, frankw said:

Joe B was a driving voice behind the Teddy Bridgewater signing so it does stand to reason he had input on Sam. Go back and read those articles where he and Matt Rhule talk about Teddy.

Yet Teddy had no problem throwing Brady under the bus on his way out. 

Funny how life works. 

[CRA]

13 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

Yeah don’t worry I think we’ve established by now that the best defense you can muster up of Joe Brady is that “Matt Rhule sucks”. That’s a very brave take. I think we can put this to rest now.

Joe Brady is just a tool people use to deflect from how bad Matt Rhule has been in Carolina. 

Joe Brady sucked last year.  I don't argue that.  But there was going to be no other outcome.  You have green passing OC.....and you supplied him with a bad OL, bad QB and a HC that doesn't want to pass lol.  Which brings us back to Matt Rhule. 

 

 

[glenwo2]

11 minutes ago, CRA said:

Joe Brady is just a tool people use to deflect from how bad Matt Rhule has been in Carolina. 

Joe Brady sucked last year.  I don't argue that.  But there was going to be no other outcome.  You have passing OC.....and you supplied him with a bad OL, bad QB and a HC that doesn't want to pass lol.  Which brings us back to Matt Rhule. 

 

 

Yes. 

Yes he is. 

 

(sorry...couldn't resist.  lol)

[poundaway]

33 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Yet Teddy had no problem throwing Brady under the bus on his way out. 

Funny how life works. 

Of course he did, he'd been butting heads with Brady all season.

Brady was the greenest college coach we had and was CLEARLY in over his head.  Firing Brady was correcting a mistake that should have never been made.  I am glad he is gone and we are better off for it.

Was Rhule wrong hiring Brady?  Yes.
Was Rhule wrong firing Brady?  HELL NO.

CRA hates Rhule SO much, that when Rhule fires the idiot, all he cares about is Brady's career and how the poor guy got scapegoated, when the reality is,  Brady shouldn't have been here to begin with.  CRA is just a hater.