Matt Corral is here because of Ben McAdoo

[Jackie Lee]

3 hours ago, 45catfan said:

And Rhule gets the demotion....out of Charlotte.

I think in that scenario we could leave McAdoo at OC and let Wilks be the motivational speaker HC if that's the goal. 

[Mike2.0]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

I think in that scenario we could leave McAdoo at OC and let Wilks be the motivational speaker HC if that's the goal. 

Wilks stepping in as the interim for Rhule makes sense from the perspective that it keeps our coordinators in place focusing on their side of the ball, then leaving the rest up to Wilks. 

The only thing that makes me hesitant on Wilks taking over is the level of trust placed in McAdoo on the quarterback front. If the GM has deferred to him, then does it make McAdoo our next coach in waiting if Rhule is shown the door? Or is that irrelevant and our GM simply values McAdoo’s ability to evaluate QBs?

[DaveThePanther2008]

I guess our future offense's will be similar.  If McAdoo gets this team rolling he will surely be offered another HC job. 

[OldhamA]

OP: Our new OC recommended Corral

Huddle: Fire Rhule!

 

Rent. Free.

[WarHeel]

12 hours ago, rayzor said:

I feel like I'm getting reeled back in, but aside from replacing Rhule they're starting to do everything I was hoping they'd do. 

[CRA]

6 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

Your continued defense of Brady is just as delusional as the Rhule/Darnold defenders. The common theme with Brady is he could not get the ball in the end zone…that was consistent no matter who his QB was, and that’s consistent with Teddy’s claim that we never practiced our red zone offense. That was clear to anyone who watched our games on Sundays. Brady was clueless there, and touchdowns are what win you games in the NFL. He was okay between the 20s which is why guys like Robby and Curtis had that “career production” you’re touting (i.e. yardage), but who cares if you can’t get the ball in the end zone.

It’s wild revisionism that you and others all of a sudden wanna go back and praise our 2020 offense in defense of Brady. No one at the time was praising our offense, and rightfully so because it was pretty terrible. 

Joe Brady was a green OC.   Hiring Joe Brady meant he was going to need time develop.  Part of the deal from the jump when you hire someone that has never been an OC much less a NFL one.   I simply accept that.

I’ve always called him green and I always pointed to his situational play calling as the key area he needed to develop and grow. 

I’ve also highlighted the fact he was a bad pairing for Matt Rhule.  Brady is talented but a green OC like him needed a real NFL HC.  We did this comical thing of everyone being green.  Everyone.  So we weren’t practicing like a NFL team should and devoting time to areas like we should.  Because the entire org was from college and didn’t know what to do.   But that’s not a Joe Brady issue in reality.  That’s an organization issue.  Everyone can’t be new and not know the NFL.  So the fault there is above Brady. 

But Joe Brady had consistently impressed overall except for one scenario given what he was …..and that was when the worst QB in the NFL was thrown at him.  

and yes, people were praising our 2020 offense.  We were overachieving at the time given what we were.   We should of been horrible. That was the expectation. We were in every game that year except for the ones against the eventual SB champs.….and frankly shouldn’t of been.   And it’s why Brady got HC interviews. 

 

[Doc Holiday]

13 hours ago, rayzor said:

I feel like I'm getting reeled back in, but aside from replacing Rhule they're starting to do everything I was hoping they'd do. 

Their moves make sense now is the main thing. They got off the rails last year and got off the plan. Clearly they got back on it. That’s the most encouraging thing to me. I think after this off-season it’s clear that Rhule was running the show last year and this year he isn’t. Which is a good thing because Rhule was clearly outside of his depth.

the difference is night and day.

hopefully they are also clear sign people to big contracts too soon thing after how the Darnold and Anderson contracts blew up in their face. Neither player deserved the contract they got.

Edited May 3, 2022 by Doc Holiday

[Black&BlueBubba]

I trust Macado as a OC.  He has done well in the past and was one that had Mahomes high on his board from what I remember. 
 

If he thinks all Corral’s issues can be worked on then I am all on board. 
 

At this time of the year like any team it’s good to have hope.  Hopefully it stays that way when the season begins.  
 

I hope he can win the starting job outright.  Though I get he feeling Darnold will start the season. 

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, WarHeel said:

pretty much. i've still got the Rhule hang up and i don't trust him, but if he's letting up on the reigns and letting others do their job without him micromanaging, then it's a bit easier. if i knew what they were going to do at QB, it would be a LOT easier.

but i swear, this team is making me bipolar.

[rayzor]

36 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

Their moves make sense now is the main thing. They got off the rails last year and got off the plan. Clearly they got back on it. That’s the most encouraging thing to me. I think after this off-season it’s clear that Rhule was running the show last year and this year he isn’t. Which is a good thing because Rhule was clearly outside of his depth.

the difference is night and day.

hopefully they are also clear sign people to big contracts too soon thing after how the Darnold and Anderson contracts blew up in their face. Neither player deserved the contract they got.

i think last year was part of the plan and that was the problem. i think rhule needed to be steered in the right direction because he was off course as soon as he hit the track as head coach. he basically thought he knew a lot more than he did. it's not all just football. there's a bit more to it in all capacities at the pro level and i think he (and tepper) underestimated just how different it was from college.

[TLGPanthersFan]

McAdoo was a better OC than a coach. Meaning he will get another coaching job even though it is obvious he is a bad Head Coach. 
Kinds like the Bucs coach, Todd Bowles. Guy was one of the worst coaches during his time with the Jets. Yet he got another chance. 
NFL loves its retreads. 

[shaqattaq]

14 hours ago, CRA said:

Matt Rhule every post game presser: 

Sam Darnold is our starting QB

He is until he isn't. Corral hasn't taken a single practice snap as a panther yet. 

[CRA]

11 minutes ago, rayzor said:

pretty much. i've still got the Rhule hang up and i don't trust him, but if he's letting up on the reigns and letting others do their job without him micromanaging, then it's a bit easier. if i knew what they were going to do at QB, it would be a LOT easier.

but i swear, this team is making me bipolar.

I think the reigns were taken from him.  Not that he let up. 

IMO, the big Rhule issue is that the change is just from a GM/personel side of things.   GM is now doing the job of the GM.  But Rhule will still be doing the job of the coach. 

and Rhule doesn't seem to be a great leader of men at this level.  His game management is problematic.  Most important, his management of players and the roster is problematic.   

I do think having a staff of coaches that are frankly better overall NFL coaches than Rhule will solve some of the glaring Rhule issues.  But Rhule is a long documented micromanger.   That's a DNA thing.  Which I think the Matt Rhule thumbprint is inevitable despite the better staff. 

 

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

He is until he isn't. Corral hasn't taken a single practice snap as a panther yet. 

Sam Darnold IMO will be the starting QB until the boos reign down at BOA and force Rhule's hand.   Everything suggests Rhule wanted to repeat the process and go the Baker route.  

Rhule just needs wins.  I think he is going to stick with Sam behind center, a comical overload of CMC and playing to the D as long as humanly possible. 

The Corral path is a development one.  And that isn't a path that does Matt Rhule a lot of favors this season.