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Panthers going to deal for Baker or Jimmy G? Not so fast per Fowler (tonight)


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1 hour ago, Snake said:

Last year's mistakes are double compounded. Not only did we pass on Fields and Jones but we gave up a pick that would have netted us a QB this year as well. Talk about a massive failure trading for darnald. 

What has Fields done in the NFL to convince you he's the guy?

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47 minutes ago, joemac said:

If Strongs knee can hold up, I think he could be the biggest steal of the draft for some team.  Hes got all the arm talent in the world. 

I wouldn't go that far.

He's got a good NFL arm, which is obviously quite rare.

I'd love to pick him up and develop him - he makes some throws that stand out on film (both with accuracy and anticipation). 

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Fitterer stated pretty clearly on his radio interview that they were not at all up for trading next year's first and second round picks.

He seemed to hedge a little when it came to talking about picks after the third, though.

Robby and next year's 4th for a 2nd tonight for Howell?

As down on the Panthers as I've been recently that would be an immediate

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Robby and next year's 4th for a 2nd tonight for Howell?

As down on the Panthers as I've been recently that would be an immediate

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If you could convince me that we were getting the Sam Howell I saw last year, I could more easily get on board with it.

And I'd really want to know that he had the right skills to run a West Coast style attack.

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