Tepper says 5 year minimum for Rhule.

[Shocker]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Most will not be upset about winning, despite what you think. 

I think most are also smart enough to see through what he is. It really didn't tale long to see it. But, I am sure "head in the sand" is nice.

You know we can add 1 healthy guy that is here and we probably win games.  This team wins with a healthy CMC.  Big if, but it is a fact

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Shocker said:

You know we can add 1 healthy guy that is here and we probably win games.  This team wins with a healthy CMC.  Big if, but it is a fact

Well we largely haven't, given that we are 27-31 in games he plays in his career.

That's basically the issue with RB's in general in the modern era of the NFL. They can help you win but they very rarely win on their own.

[Shocker]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Well we largely haven't, given that we are 27-31 in games he plays in his career.

That's basically the issue with RB's in general in the modern era of the NFL. They can help you win but they very rarely win on their own.

I am glass half full…I will just believe we are getting better albeit slowly and see how things go.  No sky is falling here

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well we largely haven't, given that we are 27-31 in games he plays in his career.

That's basically the issue with RB's in general in the modern era of the NFL. They can help you win but they very rarely win on their own.

I hoping for the combination of more experienced play caller,  better Oline, and some health luck with CMC will Atleast make the offense look better..

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, jayboogieman said:

From what I've seen this place has always been a whining forum.

When we're losing, sure.

But the leadership of this team has made everything worse and it's really taking a toll on a lot of us. I can't remember a time that so many fans were so disillusioned by this team. This is by far the worst funk I've seen here since I joined in '05 (or was it '04?).

[TLGPanthersFan]

The Panthers are littered with the corpses of your failures, Tepper. 

[Shocker]

Just now, rayzor said:

When we're losing, sure.

But the leadership of this team has made everything worse and it's really taking a toll on a lot of us. I can't remember a time that so many fans were so disillusioned by this team. This is by far the worst funk I've seen here since I joined in '05 (or was it '04?).

The leadership has absolutely changed completely from last season.  We are writing them off before they ever get a shot?  Changes have been implemented.  

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Shocker said:

I am glass half full…I will just believe we are getting better albeit slowly and see how things go.  No sky is falling here

I don't share that view largely due to the people in charge(Tepper/Rhule) being so obviously out of their depth.

Then you consider how poorly the last two offseasons have gone(and sadly looking like a third is likely), I am not buying the "improvements." 

I definitely hope I am wrong about the latter part because if I am not, this current rebuild is gonna look like child's play.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Shocker said:

The leadership has absolutely changed completely from last season.  We are writing them off before they ever get a shot?  Changes have been implemented.  

I don't think you are understanding what we mean by leadership. Rhule is reportedly notorious for micromanaging, so changing some parts underneath him aren't likely to have a big impact. He is still the guy calling the shots on personnel and schemes. He still dictates that. 

That is what we mean by leadership. The guy who we literally signed a contract that said he is basically in charge of all of it.

Until that changes, and we won't know that immediately, then why would it matter what random assortment of people are underneath him? How are those guys supposed to move the needle?

[rayzor]

5 minutes ago, Shocker said:

The leadership has absolutely changed completely from last season.  We are writing them off before they ever get a shot?  Changes have been implemented.  

I don't trust the leadership of this team. Why would I? I haven't seen any positive results. Won't know if those hires are good until we see results.

And even then, this is stil clueless Rhule's team.

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

I hoping for the combination of more experienced play caller,  better Oline, and some health luck with CMC will Atleast make the offense look better..

That is a tall order without a competent QB(much less HC). Sadly the better OL is not guaranteed yet. We hope that is the case.

I will say there will be no excuse for the offense NOT looking better. None.

[Shocker]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't share that view largely due to the people in charge(Tepper/Rhule) being so obviously out of their depth.

Then you consider how poorly the last two offseasons have gone(and sadly looking like a third is likely), I am not buying the "improvements." 

I definitely hope I am wrong about the latter part because if I am not, this current rebuild is gonna look like child's play.

Joe Brady for McAdoo is a big upgrade IMO.  Brady was ridiculous.  Rhule said we were going to rush the ball more and Brady just throws it constantly.  Guess what he fired his ass.  Not like Rhule is sitting around doing nothing 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Shocker said:

Joe Brady for McAdoo is a big upgrade IMO.  Brady was ridiculous.  Rhule said we were going to rush the ball more and Brady just throws it constantly.  Guess what he fired his ass.  Not like Rhule is sitting around doing nothing 

I want to believe that but we don't know that. This board jerked off all over having a genius like Brady on board. Even into the 2021 season. 

It's not like McAdoo was a guy that teams were pining after. He was basically just a consultant because of how poor his last stint was in the NFL. So, I am not gonna rejoice on this guy until it shows consistent and at least AVERAGE results on the field. I have EXTREMELY low expectations, so he shouldn't be able to perform worse than those.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

He has to be tanking the value of the team.

Panther fans - find something else to do with your Sundays!