Sam Darnold told Jets they were “making a mistake” by trading him

[top dawg]

9 hours ago, Basbear said:

i dont know if bait or not. i do hold a 8% hope that if the panthers have a decent OL, fully season CMC health, TEs/WRs improve/grow more.....Sam can be good enough. I did see real talent in a few games, but the biggest issue is 4 years of running for his life would change ANY player. Hes needs reprogramming, dont know if current staff can work this miracle.  

Many of the criticisms of Darnold's college tape are the same criticisms that people have today. He essentially hasn't learned a thing. His ball security and decision making are just atrocious. 

[SizzleBuzz]

3 hours ago, top dawg said:

Many of the criticisms of Darnold's college tape are the same criticisms that people have today. He essentially hasn't learned a thing. His ball security and decision making are just atrocious. 

It is amazing...

...calls his intellect into question.

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[CarolinaRideorDie]

15 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

I really want to know who was the most responsible for signing Darnold.

Who looked at a QB with Darnolds level of ineptitude and thought they can make him into a good QB??

Rhule was hired to take over all football operations and all decisions go through him, so he is primarily the one to blame. I also think Joe Brady played a big part of it, Teddy was signed because he was "familiar" with Brady's offense in New Orleans. Brady must have believed that he could fix Darnold. 

[Jackie Lee]

55 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Rhule was hired to take over all football operations and all decisions go through him, so he is primarily the one to blame. I also think Joe Brady played a big part of it, Teddy was signed because he was "familiar" with Brady's offense in New Orleans. Brady must have believed that he could fix Darnold. 

And Rhule hired Brady. He should have went for an NFL OC when he still had the optimism surrounding his coaching abilities. 

 

[CarolinaRideorDie]

51 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

And Rhule hired Brady. He should have went for an NFL OC when he still had the optimism surrounding his coaching abilities. 

 

I think Rhule had too much arrogance and believed his process or methods would work in the NFL. That's why he didn't hire experienced veteran NFL coaches, he wanted to hire "his guys." This offseason he has hired more experienced guys. 

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

It is amazing...

...calls his intellect into question.

What the hell are you talking about--suggesting?

If you don't know the proper language of football, then perhaps you should take a gander at hundreds of articles and draft profiles on record since the evolution of the modern NFL. Here are some regarding Sam Darnold!

"poor decision-making"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/35698/benching-sam-darnold-might-be-best-step-in-fixing-carolina-panthers-offense%3fplatform=amp

 

"...but his lower half mechanics and decision making could prevent him from becoming a top tier NFL QB..."

https://turnonthejets.com/2018/06/sitting-sam-darnold-in-year-one-lower-half-mechanics-decision-making/

 

"Darnold attributed his first interception to 'poor decision-making.'"

https://www.panthers.com/news/sam-darnold-i-m-fully-aware-i-didn-t-play-my-best-football

 

"Making wiser decisions when he’s on the move might be a good start."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nesn.com/2021/11/stat-suggests-panthers-sam-darnold-shouldnt-throw-on-run-anymore/amp/

 

After harping on the decision-making, Rhule said he'll wait until he reviews the film before making any big statements on Darnold's future.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/sam-darnold-on-3-to-day-in-panthers-loss-i-m-fully-aware-i-didn-t-play-my-best-f

 

"Thus far, his decision-making has been questionable."

https://withthefirstpick.com/2018/02/10/2018-nfl-draft-sam-darnold-strengths-weaknesses/3/

 

There are many more examples...Damn, SizzleMuzz.

 

Just because someone does not have the mental processing speed or even acuity to make good decisions under pressure doesn't necessarily speak to a person's raw intellectual ability. Good grief, man!

 

 

 

[Jmac]

He probably will be the starter this year again if they do draft a rookie. He has a much better Oline, healthy CMC with a new bruising RB, and a new coordinator. If he will ever live up to his statement this is the time......or not.

[Basbear]

13 hours ago, top dawg said:

Many of the criticisms of Darnold's college tape are the same criticisms that people have today. He essentially hasn't learned a thing. His ball security and decision making are just atrocious. 

They are right and I agree. Give him no more excuses and see if he can overcome maybe the worst 4 year OL start to ones career. Its alllll the hope I got left, pleeeeease bump ANY Darnold thread when they first traded for him......Its me in there calling him the worst proven QB and panthers may have the worst overall QB room. I did see the first round talent, his mental game is my greatest fear...

[poundaway]

TBF, the jets did use the #2 draft pick on someone who actually performed worse than Darnold.  Darnold was 32nd in PR.  Zack was 33rd.  So there's that.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, poundaway said:

TBF, the jets did use the #2 draft pick on someone who actually performed worse than Darnold.  Darnold was 32nd in PR.  Zack was 33rd.  So there's that.

One was a rookie. The other in his 4th season with three years of starting experience under his belt.

 

[poundaway]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

One was a rookie. The other in his 4th season with three years of starting experience under his belt.

 

True...and Wilson may end up being an upgrade in the long run, though indications are that it will be a close race to the bottom.   Its possible after coming in 33rd he'll rocket to the top to justify the #2 pick.  I'm not holding my breath. 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, poundaway said:

True...and Wilson may end up being an upgrade in the long run, though indications are that it will be a close race to the bottom.   Its possible after coming in 33rd he'll rocket to the top to justify the #2 pick.  I'm not holding my breath. 

 

Did you catch any of Josh Allen's rookie season? He looked terrible.

 

[poundaway]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Did you catch any of Josh Allen's rookie season? He looked terrible.

 

Did you catch Cam Newton's?