Rockhill site going south fast it seems.

[jamos14]

1 hour ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Relevant.  

 

Not relevant.

A deal is a deal.

That's one of the reasons why he is hated.   It's 100% relevant to the hate he is getting.   

 

Did you miss the part where I said this is Rock Hill's fault?   They committed to a shitty deal. 

 

It's equally shitty that Tepper took advantage of a local communities tax $$$ so he can save some petty cash.   But a contract is what it is, there isn't anything "illegal" with he is doing.   But it's still unethical/immoral IMO.  That's why billionaires become/stay billionaires. They take advantage of everything/everybody.

 

 

 

 

[Darknight]

On 4/6/2022 at 1:49 PM, Inimicus said:

Im not caping for anyone.  Im suggesting the people who have been threatening to leave should hit the bricks

Here's a thought......maybe they could leave without announcing they are leaving if they were serious about it but they are not.

Edited April 8, 2022 by Darknight

[poundaway]

Rock Hill was a mistake for many reasons, but apparently the biggest one being that the Rock Hill politicians made promises either they couldn't keep, or had no intention of keeping...hoping the county and state would bail them out.

A lot has already been invested.   My guess is the county and state save the deal.

[CRA]

1 hour ago, poundaway said:

Rock Hill was a mistake for many reasons, but apparently the biggest one being that the Rock Hill politicians made promises either they couldn't keep, or had no intention of keeping...hoping the county and state would bail them out.

A lot has already been invested.   My guess is the county and state save the deal.

yeah, without Tepper and RH actually coming forward with the facts on the table.....all this is still largely rumors and news leaks.  Both have a duty to quit hiding and lay the actual facts on the table. 

my guess is the root issue is....Tepper simply regrets the idea he intitally went forward with and is going about making sure it doesn't happen. 

[Ricky Spanish]

York County Councilman Brandon Guffey's statement on the matter:

York County Council Member, Brandon Guffey, releases statement (below) regarding the Panthers:

All that is required for a community to be taken advantage of is for good men to do nothing. I’ve personally taken heat over suspending rules to vote on a resolution that was provided on a Saturday to vote on Monday. I’ve been criticized for supporting an alternative option for Panthers organization. I’ve labored behind the scenes urging the city of Rock Hill to pass a resolution as well. A resolution that we were told would satisfy all parties. I come on here to express my personal opinions, not trying to speak as council as a whole, to show the transparency so many have asked for.

Regardless of Mr Tepper’s wealth, I have always respected his blue collar mentality and thought he was a man for the working class. I thought this is a man to model yourself afterwards due to some of his past quotes such as “I was never afraid to go back to Pittsburg and work in the steel mills”. As a kid that grew up in Rock Hill without the wealth that so many had and as a man that now digs in dirt for a living, this was a man to look up to. It appears those values I thought we shared have been tainted by the Wall Street investor mentality. I live by hard work. We rise early, stay late, and come back the next day to do it all again. To this day, my slogan is Get Dirty. If I ever act as not caring for the common man, I could only hope another will call me out as I am right now. I ran my county council race in 2020 as being the blue collar bulldog but feel as the billionaire is ignoring the calamity of the blue collar workers in my home. I now run for a seat within the SC house with the same mentality. As I said in my opening sentence, All that is required for a community to be taken advantage of is for good men to do nothing. I firmly believe that and ask that Mr Tepper and the Panthers organization simply come to the table to discuss the option they asked us to propose.

Why did myself and other elected officials push so hard to issue a resolution? Everyone has their own reasons but for me it had a lot to do with the families of the local workers on that job site. We did our part to show good faith, hoping to save those jobs. So that all those equipment leases and other contracts wouldn’t be broken. Affording the Panthers organization the opportunity to truly show that we are two states, one team. I stood in the crowd as a fan, a citizen, and with no political ambition when the deal was signed. I was happy that we had a franchise owner that shared my blue collar beliefs. I wasn’t involved in that first dealing with the Panthers but our subsequent efforts were made in good faith. I was constantly defending the argument of “he is just a billionaire throwing around his weight”. I watched as the Tepper family contributed to a park for special needs children in our community, seemed to buy in to what makes our community so great, and continued to lay down their investments throughout. I thought this is a team that is going to give back to our schools, care about the local hard working families and not screw over our working class. What I have seen since getting on Council is not the organization I thought it was. The County, City, Schools and State have all fought hard to do what is best for this community and show that we want the Panthers and Mr Tepper to be a part of it. What have we seen in return? Silence. No response. The Panthers and their owner seem to have forgotten what it means to be a little guy in the business world. Meanwhile I’m questioning, have those local contractors been paid? Will this be a Wall Street deal about saving money or actually taking care of our community that knows dirty hands make the cleanest money? Will we have a road to nowhere? If the facility is not built by 2024, the Panthers stands to lose north of a hundred million in tax credits our state officials worked so hard to get. We won’t have the majority leader in Columbia should they need to come back.

What we have now is a road to nowhere and nothing. We have small businesses struggling, a lack of certainty within our community and the resentment towards the Panthers organization is growing daily. We’ve got an outsider bringing in Wall Street values instead of someone that shares our values of a hard days work that so many of us do. I pray that I am wrong but have little faith in a sensible resolution. That crow appears to be coming home to roost. How do York County season ticket holders feel? How do the fans of the franchise we considered our home team feel. How do our small business owners recover from investments made on our future? How do other cities feel about having an irrational actor of the NFL coming to their area? How does Charlotte feel as they negotiate on the terms of their new stadium? How does the brand not suffer anywhere it looks to expand? More questions and more silence!

[SgtJoo]

 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, SgtJoo said:

 

Oy...

[MikeD83]

What a disaster. Nothing has gone as expected under this current ownership. The NFL made an incredible mistake selling this team to someone with 0 connection to the region. 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, MikeD83 said:

What a disaster. Nothing has gone as expected under this current ownership. The NFL made an incredible mistake selling this team to someone with 0 connection to the region. 

The NFL's primary point of interest was David Tepper's connection to 11 billion dollars.

Anything beyond that wasn't really considered important.

[TheSpecialJuan]

22 minutes ago, SgtJoo said:

 

Good

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The NFL's primary point of interest was David Tepper's connection to 11 billion dollars.

Anything beyond that wasn't really considered important.

yep.  NFL doesn't care how much an owner cares about the community their team is in.  We just saw 2 teams move in the very recent past. 

Tepper doesn't give a poo about the Charlotte area.  He cares about making money with his professional sports teams.    

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

yep.  NFL doesn't care how much an owner cares about the community their team is in.  We just saw 2 teams move in the very recent past. 

Tepper doesn't give a poo about the Charlotte area.  He cares about making money with his professional sports teams.    

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure he still doesn't live here at this point. I believe his actual home remains in Florida.

If there are any other NFL owners who don't even live in the same state in which their team is based, I don't know who they are.

Edited April 8, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure he still doesn't live here at this point. I believe his actual home remains in Florida.

If there are any other NFL owners who don't even live in the same state in which their team is based, I don't know who they are.

I think he actually went back to Jersey after FL.  But it was FL for a minute. 

He basically rents an apartment for when in the Charlotte area.  And yes, I know it is millionaire dollar home but on the Tepper scale of things that is what it equates to. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure he still doesn't live here at this point. I believe his actual home remains in Florida.

If there are any other NFL owners who don't even live in the same state in which their team is based, I don't know who they are.

Panthers owner David Tepper buys John Fox’s Quail Hollow mansion for $5.35 million

https://charlotte.axios.com/234660/panthers-owner-david-tepper-buys-john-foxs-quail-hollow-mansion-for-5-35-million/