Talk to me about the scouting department

[ladypanther]

So...what do you know about them?  They are obviously a big part of this draft.  What do we know?  Are they good?  Have we made changes?  How are they playing in to all of this?

[kungfoodude]

I know they haven't been terribly impressive recently. Not sure if that is the department or the leadership, though.

That feels like an assessment that would have to be made by someone in the scouting community. 

[4Corners]

Yeah, I’d like to know more about it as well. Which floor are they on?

Signed,

Coach Ruhle 

[ThPantherFan]

Doesn't Dan Morgan have something to do with the scouts?

[Mr. Scot]

There weren't a whole lot of changes in the scouting department from last year to this year that I know of. My general read is that we're a little less experienced in that area than some other teams but they're hoping to change that.

The things that I do know of:

- The team promoted BLESTO scout Lee McNeil to Pro Scout
- They also parted ways with Pro Personnel Director Matt Allen
- Jeff Morrow previously changed titles from Director of Player Personnel to Senior Personnel Executive and is still on board with that title

Allen and Morrow are the most interesting stories.

Morrow's title change was basically something of a demotion. He used to run the college scouting department but now that's under Cole Spencer. It's a similar move to what Dave Gettleman did when he was preparing to retire (before getting the Panthers GM job). Morrow may also be looking to retire...or may have just lost some favor within the organization.

As far as Allen, although he was Jerry Richardson's grandson, the general take was that he legitimately earned his job and was well thought of within the team offices. The sudden news of his departure was kind of a surprise. If any more information has come to light about that, I haven't seen it.

Word is they'll look for Allen's replacement sometime later in the offseason, probably after the draft. I wouldn't be too surprised to see other changes happen then too. That's generally the season for it.

FYI: If you want to know more about the scouting department, your best option is to look up the Panthers media guide (pretty easily found online). It'll be last year's information, but the team doesn't list scout bios on their website so that's generally the best you can get.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[TheSpecialJuan]

https://static.www.nfl.com/league/apps/league-site/media-guides/2021/CAR.pdf

[4Corners]

9 minutes ago, ThPantherFan said:

Doesn't Dan Morgan have something to do with the scouts?

Let’s hope he knows more about evaluating NFL personnel than he did about running pizza parlors 

[LinvilleGorge]

As long as Rhule has final say does it really matter?

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

As long as Rhule has final say does it really matter?

I don't know that Rhule holds a lot of sway in the personnel department right now outside of him being old friends with Pat Stewart.

He gave Evan Cooper some goofball title having to do with personnel evaluation but I'm not sure he has any actual influence on scouting.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't know that Rhule holds a lot of sway in the personnel department right now outside of him being old friends with Pat Stewart.

He gave Evan Cooper some goofball title having to do with personnel evaluation but I'm not sure he has any actual influence on scouting.

I think he does. I've seen nothing that indicates he doesn't have final say.

Wait until Pickett is a Panther.

[Mr. Scot]

16 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think he does. I've seen nothing that indicates he doesn't have final say.

Wait until Pickett is a Panther.

He has final say over the roster, but I've never seen it firmly established that he has hiring and firing power in the personnel department.

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He has final say over the roster, but I've never seen it firmly established that he has hiring and firing power in the personnel department.

That's my point. As long as he has final say over the roster I don't think the scouting department really matters all that much. Dumbass gonna dumbass.

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's my point. As long as he has final say over the roster I don't think the scouting department really matters all that much. Dumbass gonna dumbass.

Fair enough, but we should be used to that after 15 years of Marty Hurney.

[rayzor]

Bunch of lazy bums

~ Urban Meyer