PJ Walker vs Malik Willis

[frankw]

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Sam Howell to Sam Darnold makes more sense than Malik Willis to P.J. Walker.

Wait, wut?

[Wundrbread33]

I don’t get the hype either. 

Willis not running the 40 is telling. No need to ruin the hype train with a slower than expected 40.

 

Most comps for Willis are Steve McNair.

 

There’s a little revisionist history going on, because McNair wasn’t a good quarterback. 

I don’t want a McNair or a middle of the pack guy at 6. 

 

Malik’s arm is legit strong, but there are waaaaay too many red flags to spend not just a day 1 pick, but I’d argue a day 2 on him. 

[Martin]

I definitely think Willis has question marks. But saying him and PJ are the same is just ridiculous. I put more weight on people like Dane Brugler who currently have him as his 32nd player overall. Hence I found my response appropriate.

[Wundrbread33]

It’s wild that a Dak Prescott can fall to the 4th round. Legit size, mobility, production (in the damn SEC) and arm…while a guy like Willis is in talk for the top 10.

 

 

[Zod]

One was a UDFA and one will be a first round pick. 

 

Totally same thing. 

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I don’t get the hype either. 

Willis not running the 40 is telling. No need to ruin the hype train with a slower than expected 40.

If he could run 4.3s like folks claim he'd run. I see a 4.5s guy when I watch him. Still a fast QB but no Michael Vick or Lamar Jackson.

 

[carpanfan96]

44 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Please, he's over hyped and you're wrong.  PJ is just as athletic as Willis just not hyped up like Willis is.  In any other draft he would be a mid-round pick at best. 

Can PJ run as fast as Murray and be around a 4.4 and throw 75 air yard throws? Let me answer that, nope he can't. 

[Wundrbread33]

5 minutes ago, Zod said:

One was a UDFA and one will be a first round pick. 

 

Totally same thing. 

Cute to type, but irrelevant. 
 

Could very well be the same thing.

 

Lots of guys can run fast and throw hard in college. An NFL QB needs a little more than that.

 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If he could run 4.3s like folks claim he'd run. I see a 4.5s guy when I watch him. Still a fast QB but no Michael Vick or Lamar Jackson.

 

Also look at who he is getting these stats against.  Teams named Troy, ULM, UNT and Campbell (who i had no idea they had a football team)

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Can PJ run as fast as Murray and be around a 4.4 and throw 75 air yard throws? Let me answer that, nope he can't. 

You got a link of him doing this?

[Carl Spackler]

Nice to see the P.J. Walker Fan Club in this thread. 

[Wundrbread33]

3 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Can PJ run as fast as Murray and be around a 4.4 and throw 75 air yard throws? Let me answer that, nope he can't. 

Probably only Vick and Lamar Jackson fit that description lol. 
 

And Pj has a rocket…he just throws it to the wrong jerseys or it hits grass. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If he could run 4.3s like folks claim he'd run. I see a 4.5s guy when I watch him. Still a fast QB but no Michael Vick or Lamar Jackson.

I've seen some pretty crazy comparisons with Willis, everything from Cam Newton to Lamar Jackson to now Steve McNair I guess...

Willis was nowhere near as good a college player as any of those guys, and all of them faced much better competition.

There's more projection going on here than in a twenty cinema multiplex.