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[Jon Snow]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

I wasn't ready to ride with him last season but at this point I would rather we take our medicine, get rid of this shitty coach and not hamstring the future of our franchise based on this dumbasses decisions. 

Worst case scenario, we end up with another top 10 pick.

I am secretly hoping we do anyway. 

[top dawg]

16 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I mean it is cute that most of these players played but very few made significant impacts. 

We passed up on impact, day one starters for projects or luxury picks. That was our 2021 draft. 

If you see an opportunity to get a QB in this draft, I mean....God bless is all I have to say. I suppose there are improvements over Darnold and Walker but if that is the bar, we could have accomplished that in the first day of free agency. 

At this point, I think you're just being cynical to be cynical. Every move that has been made and will be made by anyone in the organization is bad. All the kids acquired last year are a waste, as are all the kids in this year's draft, especially the QB--or unless they're an O-lineman. Your'e something akin to football's version of Miss Cleo, right?

Unless the Panthers FO has angered the football gods--upset the fabric of the universe by its very existence--and been handed down a sentence of being the perpetual victims of Murphy's law, it never EVER works out like you are suggesting. Some of the additions made last year, whether on the field or the sidelines will finally bear fruit, and at least one of the QB prospects in the 2022 draft will ultimately become a legitimate starter in the NFL, not to mention all of the other prospects at other positions, not only a few of the O-lineman. That's how this thing always works.

Edited March 27, 2022 by top dawg

[electro's horse]

15 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I am secretly hoping we do anyway. 

usually the "lets just suck for a year, get the coach fired, get a high pick" attitude is unique to the message board communities among fandoms. Those are generally the most hardcore of fans that follow it year around and want to discuss them more than just water cooler chit chat or whatever.

for the most part, people that follow a team don't keep up with the day to day, just want to have a good time at games, and hey if they win great! if they lose they'll find something else to do around midseason. 

but every single person I bring up the panthers with, from friends that are casual fans to patients I'm just shooting the poo with, want the panthers to tank and to get rid of rhule. It's amazing. everyone would be fine with 0-17 if it meant rhule was gone and we didn't blow a bunch of draft picks on nothing.

Darnold broke this fanbase's mind. 

[Tr3ach]

17 hours ago, PandaMan said:

I have faith in The Fiddler and Dan Morgan.  I do not have faith in Matt Rhule.  They know football and the NFL, Rhule does not.  This offseason has been overwhelmingly positive and has a different vibe from the previous two years; hopefully Rhule was stripped of some personnel decisions 

Or maybe Rhule is learning and adapting from his NFL experience.  That's usually what happens when people gain experience.

[kungfoodude]

6 hours ago, top dawg said:

At this point, I think you're just being cynical to be cynical. Every move that has been made and will be made by anyone in the organization is bad. All the kids acquired last year are a waste, as are all the kids in this year's draft, especially the QB--or unless they're an O-lineman. Your'e something akin to football's version of Miss Cleo, right?

Unless the Panthers FO has angered the football gods--upset the fabric of the universe by its very existence--and been handed down a sentence of being the perpetual victims of Murphy's law, it never EVER works out like you are suggesting. Some of the additions made last year, whether on the field or the sidelines will finally bear fruit, and at least one of the QB prospects in the 2022 draft will ultimately become a legitimate starter in the NFL, not to mention all of the other prospects at other positions, not only a few of the O-lineman. That's how this thing always works.

Horn is probably the only one I see from last year that will end up as an impact player in the last class. There are some potential depth guys but that seems to be about it.