Per sources, the #Panthers have had conversations with Cam Newton regarding a return

[grateflday]

I'd be more than happy to have Cam as the starting QB over Darnold BUT only if Darnold is gone because I do not want to deal with the Rhule's wishy washy on which QB to play.  

[Wundrbread33]

Haven’t posted in a long time, but felt like it regarding Cam. 

I don’t think he had a fair shot in NE. It was a messed up Covid off-season/year, and his skill players were terrible, and above all, he was misused and not trusted to throw. 
 

McDaniels treated him like he did The Golden Calf of Bristol. Cam always needed to build a rhythm in the passing game, and they never let him do that. He’s not a precision Drew Brees guy, and never needed to be, but only give him 12-18 throws a game, and he can’t get in a flow. No flow, no results…so let’s just run him over and over. 

 

Then he has a full off-season to build rapport and timing, but the Pats took a 1st round QB and decided to make the switch. Bye Cam.

 

He then comes here, doesn’t have timing/know the playbook, and by the time he could gain these things, the season is over. Also our amazing defense falls off hard when Cam finally gets the offense moving a bit, but “0-5 amirite?” Still not a fair shake.

 

People will give one line “nah Cam is washed now” comments, but all the above is valid. You can look at the above as “excuses”, but they can also be “reasons”.

 

Cam has healthy legs. He has a healthy arm (not a 2015 arm, but he has zip), and he has experience in this league. 
 

If we go QB at 6 that’s fine (I’d want Corral because I agree with Simms) but if we go to Cam I would be thrilled to see him finally get a full off-season to build timing with his receivers and backs, fully know the playbook, and have a solid line around him. 
 

If, after a fully off-season to build consistency, he comes out and can’t get it done, true closure would be secured, and I feel even the big Cam fans, and Cam himself, would be able to move on to the next chapter in a clear, dignified, and respectable way. 

[Kakalaki]

7 hours ago, MHS831 said:

 

Here is what I do know:   Cam was given a great shot in New England and it did not go well.

 

You can't be serious. NE went out and signed two good TE's to big money deals after the 2020 season because in 2020 they didn't have a TE .. Cam loves throwing to his TE but he didn't have one .. and you're saying he had a great shot in NE .. unbelievable

[ForJimmy]

8 minutes ago, Kakalaki said:

You can't be serious. NE went out and signed two good TE's to big money deals after the 2020 season because in 2020 they didn't have a TE .. Cam loves throwing to his TE but he didn't have one .. and you're saying he had a great shot in NE .. unbelievable

He was the undisputed starter for a stable NFL franchise. I know he didn’t have a ton of weapons, but they had a solid OL and coaching staff. It’s similar to Rivers/Wentz with the Colts. It was a weird year with Covid, but that applies to everyone. He really couldn’t stay healthy his past 3 years with Carolina before he went to NE. Cam is my favorite player, but he is no longer a full time starting QB in this league. He wouldn’t still be a FA if he was. I’m for bringing him in as a mentor/Hill type position for cheap, but that’s about it. I hope he remains associated with Carolina when he retires which might be sooner vs later. 

[Kakalaki]

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He was the undisputed starter for a stable NFL franchise. I know he didn’t have a ton of weapons, but they had a solid OL and coaching staff. It’s similar to Rivers/Wentz with the Colts. It was a weird year with Covid, but that applies to everyone. He really couldn’t stay healthy his past 3 years with Carolina before he went to NE. Cam is my favorite player, but he is no longer a full time starting QB in this league. He wouldn’t still be a FA if he was. I’m for bringing him in as a mentor/Hill type position for cheap, but that’s about it. I hope he remains associated with Carolina when he retires which might be sooner vs later. 

He didn't just not have a ton of weapons. He didn't have any.

Julian Edelman played a decade with Tom Brady. Edelman played 6 games with Cam. Edelman's career high in reception yards was with Cam at QB.

Cam started 15 games in NE .. he had 21 TD 10 INT ... in Mac Jones first 15 games - with a completely renovated offense - he had 18 TD, 12 INT .... yes, Cam is a vet, and Mac was a rookie, but Mac's weapons were almost completely different from when Cam was there.

Last but not least, when SF made the Super Bowl in the '19 season with Jimmy G .. Jimmy had 28 TD, 13 INT .. in 16 games .. Jimmy had a mere 7 more TD and 3 more INT than Cam did in '20 - with one more game started than Cam

But but but Cam only had 8 pass TD .. uh, yes, that is what will happen to your QB when there's not a TE to throw to and you're starting Damiere Byrd and an UDFA at WR

[ForJimmy]

12 minutes ago, Kakalaki said:

He didn't just not have a ton of weapons. He didn't have any.

Julian Edelman played a decade with Tom Brady. Edelman played 6 games with Cam. Edelman's career high in reception yards was with Cam at QB.

Cam started 15 games in NE .. he had 21 TD 10 INT ... in Mac Jones first 15 games - with a completely renovated offense - he had 18 TD, 12 INT .... yes, Cam is a vet, and Mac was a rookie, but Mac's weapons were almost completely different from when Cam was there.

Last but not least, when SF made the Super Bowl in the '19 season with Jimmy G .. Jimmy had 28 TD, 13 INT .. in 16 games .. Jimmy had a mere 7 more TD and 3 more INT than Cam did in '20 - with one more game started than Cam

But but but Cam only had 8 pass TD .. uh, yes, that is what will happen to your QB when there's not a TE to throw to and you're starting Damiere Byrd and an UDFA at WR

From a throwing standpoint Cam had 8 TDs and 10 INTs. He was taking goal line carries away from the RB, which is fine as that was their offense. The problem with being that one dimensional is when they had to pass it got ugly… Teams are desperate for QBs now and if he still had his ability they would be offering him contracts. He looked no better than Sam when he was throwing fit us last year. 

[Kakalaki]

3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

From a throwing standpoint Cam had 8 TDs and 10 INTs. He was taking goal line carries away from the RB, which is fine as that was their offense. The problem with being that one dimensional is when they had to pass it got ugly… Teams are desperate for QBs now and if he still had his ability they would be offering him contracts. He looked no better than Sam when he was throwing fit us last year. 

The 2020 Patriots and the 2021 Panthers are two piss poor situations for QB's .. you can't fairly judge what Cam is or isnt based on the last two years.

It's all good though because we're all going to get to see Cam with protection and weapons this season in Carolina. There will not be a rookie QB

[Cpt slay a ho]

Lol at cam getting a fair shake in NE that’s hilarious 

I’m not going to get into this again cause there’s a lot of important information that’s seemingly left out when discussing Cam’s past two seasons, but it’s low risk high reward, he’d be cheap, he be competition for darnold, he’d be a good mentor for a rookie, and if he failed to produce with a improve line, oc etc than you can close that chapter for good. 
 

[KillerKat]

At the least he would be a greater red zone, goal line, short yardage threat with a better line.

[mc52beast]

People still believe Cam could play a full season are living in a fantasy world. Use him in short yardage, goal-line situations.

And this is assuming he even wants to play for Rhule again.

[rippadonn]

3 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

People still believe Cam could play a full season are living in a fantasy world. Use him in short yardage, goal-line situations.

And this is assuming he even wants to play for Rhule again.

Why? Arm is shot?....no.

Why? Too old?.....no early thirties.

Why? Out of shape?....no.

Why? Can't throw?.... nonsense couldn't get a job if that was so.

Why?

 

 

 

[RJK]

9 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

People still believe Cam could play a full season are living in a fantasy world. Use him in short yardage, goal-line situations.

And this is assuming he even wants to play for Rhule again.

 

[ColumbusCounty]

On 3/21/2022 at 7:16 PM, RJK said:

I don't know where this cam as a mentor thing is coming from either. What's he gonna teach pickett? how to run over Dlineman and front flip into the endzone? Cuz it sure as poo isn't gonna be x's and o's 

Pretty sure Cam previously served as a mentor to Watson and Willis in some capacity. Hell, Willis played on Cam's 7 on 7 team, spent three years at Cam's highschool, and went to Auburn. 

Why do you assume Cam couldnt/wouldnt be a mentor? Lol. "What's he gonna teach Pickett?". Well let's not forget he is a former NFL MVP, Offensive Rookie of the Year, 3x Pro Bowler and former All-Pro. With a list of accolades that would look like a book of contents page. 

X's and O's...He's literally top 50 in NFL HISTORY in PASSING yards. And that's with Sam Darnold-esque offensive lines and a list of receivers that included Funchess, Benjamin, Kaelin Clay, Damiere Byrd, Brandon Lafell, David Gettis, Ted Ginn Jr., and Philly Brown.... let that sink in. 

He might not be prime Cam at the moment but he earned his respect over here. 

[KillerKat]

On 3/21/2022 at 7:16 PM, RJK said:

I don't know where this cam as a mentor thing is coming from either. What's he gonna teach pickett? how to run over Dlineman and front flip into the endzone? Cuz it sure as poo isn't gonna be x's and o's 

You are an idiot