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have you accepted that sam darnold is the week 1 starter yet?


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Yes; no point in cater walling about what you can't change.  Keep our 1.6 or trade back a little, but get a premier LT or C in the first.  Roll with Darnold; Rhule gets capped and we are set up for a high first round pick next year.  Use vaseline as necessary to improve the inevitable irritation.

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4 minutes ago, Panther'sBigD said:

It's what I wanted from the start. It's the toughest option to get excited about/endure, but it gives us the outcome everyone seems to want: Offensive line overhaul, High 2023 first round pick and Rhule fired at some point during the season.   

The only thing I disagree with you about on your statement above is it isn’t just “tough” to get excited about that, its damned IMPOSSIBLE.

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This team needs to tank if they wanna be relevant, the shortcuts they've tried to take have largely blown up in their faces. The team is not a QB away from competing yet, and that's clear, but apparently the plan is to play everything by ear. They give Rhule a long contract and present themselves like theire taking it slow, like the Lions, then immediately start trading draft picks for AnY ole QB. That's not coherent. This is a year to build up your roster bc clearly next year is the year to draft a QB. But they've screwed the pooch so much they've backed themselves into a corner and honestly some folks who post here could've done a better job running the team the last two years. 

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