Is this basement, if so what is next?

[Jaxel]

Tweets like what you see from Josh Norris are usually associated with teams like the Bengals, Browns, and Jags. 

Have we dipped to this level. Signing Deshaun or not, no one is going to make those jokes if NO doesn't get him, nor if the Falcons swing and miss, yet here we are.

 

So what is the turn around point? Clearly Tepper wants to win, bit he is batting 0.0 right now, how do we turn that around. I admit, this year is lowest point for me as a Panther fan, and I am finding it very very difficult to get motivated to watch anything this season.

Edited March 17, 2022 by Jaxel

[MVPccaffrey]

He needs to fire himself from all football decisions completely and just stick to his day job of shilling for Private Equity parasite capitalism on CNBC

[TheCasillas]

If landing deshaun watson was the determining factor for us to be a successful football team, then the NFL is in an interesting place right now...

Deshaun Watson is a talented QB, but he isnt the only one, and they way the league transforms after every draft, you cant rule anything out. Right now our roster is in the best shape it has been since 2017 (as long as key players stay healthy). The biggest holes are LT and QB, which can be filled via the draft, FA or trade.

I think we wait for that to happen, before we start digging a hole to burry ourselves in.

[L-TownCat]

Haven’t even hit the bottom yet.  Hold on.  The worst is yet to come.

[hepcat]

David Tepper is just plain and simple a bad sports owner. 10 years from now I believe we will really be able to analyze the true damage he did to the Panthers on the field. 

Tepper is simply too involved in the football operations side of the Panthers. He obviously knows nothing about building a championship football team. That fact shows in every decision he has made, from hiring Matt Rhule, to getting rid of Cam, to bringing back Cam, and everything in between.

Tepper appears to have some good things for the community, and I applaud that. But this is a professional football team. And the main job of that football team is to win football games. It isn't to offer a great fan experience, or to sell tickets in new field suites, or to do community service work. All of those things are well and good, but the goal of a football team should be to win a Superbowl.

I just don't even know what to say anymore. The Panthers are in a very dark place and it's 99% David Tepper's fault. Things probably won't get better for a long while. 

[4Corners]

Next move, once Watson decides to play elsewhere, will be full on PR spin from Rhule saying that the price tag was “too much” and they were not going to trade any of the young players that they have now pissed off. Will try and save some sort of face by saying they backed out because the price tag was too high. 
 

this upcoming year is going to be a low point for the franchise that may only be saved by Rhule getting fired or Rhule pulling a petrino and leaving for a college job by thanksgiving 

[Mother Grabber]

we had pickles and 1-15. were far from the basement 

[Carl Spackler]

0-17 and sending No. 1 overall to Cleveland for four games of Baker Mayfield is the basement. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Bedrock. Then the heavy machinery comes out.

[thefuzz]

5 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

we had pickles and 1-15. were far from the basement 

1 season.

We are now trending...while that was really bad...it wasn't years in the making.

Last time we had a winning record?

[Panther'sBigD]

I hope you guys get this all out on this message board...that this is cathartic for you, and you don't live your lives this way out in the real world. The level of hysteria over being a mediocre team right now is ridiculous. 

[bigdog10]

He needs to make Rhule prove his worth with Sam Darnold this year. Sure, it’s gonna suck to watch as fans, but Rhule is out of excuses and bandaids. 
 

He needs to mandate that the offensive line be addressed or a trade down take place in this draft. If we have the ability to pick up a first round pick from anyone for next year, we need to take that deal so that we will have ammunition to move up and grab one of those top tier incoming qbs. 
 

He needs to make sure the cap is in clean shape for the next three years so that we can extend Moore and Burns, while also adding quality pieces to help our rookie qb win a super bowl while on his rookie deal. 
 

the mess he’s made is not a one year fix like we’ve tried to do for three straight years. Let Rhule fail, fire him, hire someone with experience and build this thing right this time. 
 

with any luck, Brady will be retired in three years, the team that gets Watson will be reeling from overpaying for his buddies and not having any young talent, and the division will be there for the taking. 

[Toker Smurf]

 

We have not yet begun to defile ourselves.

[thefuzz]

37 minutes ago, Toker Smurf said:

 

We have not yet begun to defile ourselves.

I think about this quote all the time, especially when I think about Hurney at the top for so long.