The Watson Thread - Part Deux

[joemac]

1 minute ago, cookinbrak said:

Yall do understand that Watson doesn't get to choose where he goes, Houston does. He only has veto power.

Well he kinda does though.  He can say "I will not waive my NTC except to go to Carolina" and Houston is kinda screwed.  I guess they dont have to actually trade him, but that would get real messy real fast. 

[Smittymoose]

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

Chinns positional value just isn’t there. Burns is the one that will hurt the most imo. People forget he just finished his 3rd year. For his position he has so much room to grow. 

Agree. Losing Chinn is not a big deal. Not worked about Burns either because he's very one-dimensional. He's still got room to develop, but I think it's far from a guarantee that he's more than a dynamic pass rusher with serious holes in his game against the run. 

[therealmjl]

Just now, ickmule said:

Yeah, I've never understood the love for him. He's just "good" not worth the money he is paid. 

 

exactly. he's been so underwhelming.

[Burnout189]

5 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Then there is this...

 

That would be fuging amazing if they could pull that off. I'd hate to lose a guy like Chinn most of all.

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

Chinns positional value just isn’t there. Burns is the one that will hurt the most imo. People forget he just finished his 3rd year. For his position he has so much room to grow. 

Yeah, I don't like it at all...  

As I was telling a friend recently who doesn't get to see our games but knows about our star players - if Burns could complete the tackle even a 1/3 of the time on the ones he gets a hand on the QB and missed, he would be cranking out 15 sacks a year, MINIMUM.  Now if he converted at an even higher rate in those misses, he very easily could have a 20 sack year any given year.

I really hope we find a way to keep him.

[Smittymoose]

2 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Yall do understand that Watson doesn't get to choose where he goes, Houston does. He only has veto power.

So he doesn't get to choose, he can just tell the Texans no to anyone he wants to tell them no to. lol. okay. 

[Burnout189]

1 minute ago, ickmule said:

Yeah, I've never understood the love for him. He's just "good" not worth the money he is paid. 

 

He was supposed to be the next Thomas Davis, buuut that obviously did not quite pan out.

[jb2288]

Just now, joemac said:

Well he kinda does though.  He can say "I will not waive my NTC except to go to Carolina" and Houston is kinda screwed.  I guess they dont have to actually trade him, but that would get real messy real fast. 

Tepper needs to pull some blackops stuff here. Find a way to put 100mil quietly in DW pocket to only waive his trade clause for us

[Smittymoose]

Just now, Proudiddy said:

Yeah, I don't like it at all...  

As I was telling a friend recently who doesn't get to see our games but knows about our star players - if Burns could complete the tackle even a 1/3 of the time on the ones he gets a hand on the QB and missed, he would be cranking out 15 sacks a year, MINIMUM.  Now if he converted at an even higher rate in those misses, he very easily could have a 20 sack year any given year.

I really hope we find a way to keep him.

The problem is, he doesn't convert on those sacks. 

[suntick2021]

I am sure this was posted somewhere in this massive thread but just in case...

La Canfora: Deshaun Watson prefers Saints over Panthers as trade destination

https://www.audacy.com/cbssportsradio/sports/nfl/la-canfora-deshaun-watson-prefers-saints-over-panthers-as-trade-destination

[TheRumGone]

2 minutes ago, Smittymoose said:

Agree. Losing Chinn is not a big deal. Not worked about Burns either because he's very one-dimensional. He's still got room to develop, but I think it's far from a guarantee that he's more than a dynamic pass rusher with serious holes in his game against the run. 

I don’t think it’s a guarantee. But most de’s/olbs turn it on in their 4th or 5th year. I get people saying he’s suspect against the run. But he does have von Miller type potential. I see no way we have the best package and he’s not included.

Edited March 15, 2022 by TheRumGone

[MillionDollarCam]

If we are giving up Chinn then it needs to be Brown heeded out not Burns. Chinn and Burns along with three first rounders is the equivalent of five first rounders.

[t96]

1 minute ago, Burnout189 said:

That would be fuging amazing if they could pull that off. I'd hate to lose a guy like Chinn most of all.

Chinn and Horn should be off limits. I love Burns but he’s going to get a massive contract soon and there’s a decent chance he doesn’t live up to it so I’m ok letting him go. Chinn is he heart and soul of this D though and his position doesn’t get paid crazy amounts so should be easy to keep long term. Horn still has 4 more cheap years on his deal and looked like a shutdown number 1 corner before the injury. Can’t give that away.

 

Burns or Brown, sure but still ideally keep Burns too

[HPPantherzfan]

Yea I just don't know about the Browns, I've been thinking about the cap and if it is true that Cleveland is desirable because of the roster, to make a move to get Watson the current roster wouldn't be the roster he plays with, they just don't have the room unless a lot of players including himself agreed to some pretty crazy contract renegotiations which I can't see that.