No Team has won the Super Bowl in 20+ years with their QB taking up more than 12.6% of the salary cap

[Ricky Spanish]

https://www.spotrac.com/spots/super-bowl-qb-cap-percentages-1397/#:~:text=The median cap percentage for a QB to win the,all named Brady or Manning).

This is one of the biggest reasons I am so against the Watson trade. We would not only be depleted of our draft assets, but a huge chunk of our cap would be allocated to one player with limited means of filling out the roster with talent via the draft or FA. 

Watson's Cap hit % next season = 19.4%

That's without Darnold's dumbass contract tacked onto that. So in total we would be allocating 28.4% of our entire team's Cap to the QB position...

This is HORRIBLE Roster management. I don't think the people that want Watson comprehend just how bad this deal will be for this franchise moving forward, specifically next season alone. 

Tack on a completely depleted defense and we are in roughly the same situation the Texans were in two years ago after the Laremy Tunsil trade. 

The team's best course of action is to take the hit this season, suck for a year, Fire Rhule, and hit the reset button with our likely top 5 pick in 2023. 

We are far more likely to win a SB with a QB on a rookie deal than we ever will be with Watson based on the numbers alone. 

[PanthersGOATFan336]

[TheCasillas]

what happens when D4 is restructed and only takes up 9%? Askin for a friend.

[Smithers]

Stats are for losers 

[Ja Rhule]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

what happens when D4 is restructed and only takes up 9%? Askin for a friend.

Higher chance of winning

[Davidson Deac II]

So if gets to 12.7, we are doomed, but at 12.5, we are ok?

[Kraybrothers]

Probably should add some context in there. Like the fact that QB market has changed multiple times in the past few years. Cam Newton was the highest paid QB in history when he got his 20m/year deal from us 8ish years ago. Aaron Rodgers just set the market at 50m/year which isn't that bad. DeShaun's contract looks like a steal for a legitimate top three QB.

 

Also you should consider the fact that the cap went up 30m & is projected to keep increasing.

 

Would you really rather keep Burns an extra year for him to flip to Atlanta next year? Or have Chinn become an All-Pro for a three win team having Darnold or Carson Strong at the helm? 

 

At some point we have to put the chips forward and go all-in. We are a franchise that has had some highs but ultimately have never had the consistency to win back to back winning seasons --- EVER. 

 

Our team has no culture or identity or even sustained success. We have an owner with money to play with and doesn't mind spending it because he wants to WIN. 

 

I support Rhule and Tepper and Fitterer 100% in changing the dynamic of this franchise. And you should too. No other examples from this franchise should be valid - because we do not have a Super Bowl

[MVPccaffrey]

The future of the NFL is winning with a super talented rookie deal QB, or a game manager with good FA around him.

Rogers, Mahomes, Dak; their teams are not getting back

[uncfan888]

Sign Watson and have a top tier qb here for a decade. Build around him. I'd rather take my chances with someone that could get us to the playoffs consistently versus an unknown rookie

[Smittymoose]

It's a shame people do not understand how teams can lower a cap hit year-to-year by restructuring big cap numbers every offseason. 

[Kentucky Panther]

Without looking, I would assume both Mahommes and Rodgers will be over that mark. I’m sure there’s a few more. And most of them are contenders. Elite QB play allows for a championship to always be in play. It’s up to us how we build around Watson if we get him. 

[Ricky Spanish]

2 minutes ago, Kraybrothers said:

Probably should add some context in there. Like the fact that QB market has changed multiple times in the past few years. Cam Newton was the highest paid QB in history when he got his 20m/year deal from us 8ish years ago. Aaron Rodgers just set the market at 50m/year which isn't that bad. DeShaun's contract looks like a steal for a legitimate top three QB.

 

Also you should consider the fact that the cap went up 30m & is projected to keep increasing.

 

Would you really rather keep Burns an extra year for him to flip to Atlanta next year? Or have Chinn become an All-Pro for a three win team having Darnold or Carson Strong at the helm? 

 

At some point we have to put the chips forward and go all-in. We are a franchise that has had some highs but ultimately have never had the consistency to win back to back winning seasons --- EVER. 

 

Our team has no culture or identity or even sustained success. We have an owner with money to play with and doesn't mind spending it because he wants to WIN. 

 

I support Rhule and Tepper and Fitterer 100% in changing the dynamic of this franchise. And you should too. No other examples from this franchise should be valid - because we do not have a Super Bowl

Bro, do you not know how percentages work? 

The 12.6% number is consistent year in and out over the past 20+ years regardless of the cap. 

[SCO96]

11 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

https://www.spotrac.com/spots/super-bowl-qb-cap-percentages-1397/#:~:text=The median cap percentage for a QB to win the,all named Brady or Manning).

This is one of the biggest reasons I am so against the Watson trade. We would not only be depleted of our draft assets, but a huge chunk of our cap would be allocated to one player with limited means of filling out the roster with talent via the draft or FA. 

Watson's Cap hit % next season = 19.4%

That's without Darnold's dumbass contract tacked onto that. So in total we would be allocating 28.4% of our entire team's Cap to the QB position...

This is HORRIBLE Roster management. I don't think the people that want Watson comprehend just how bad this deal will be for this franchise moving forward, specifically next season alone. 

Tack on a completely depleted defense and we are in roughly the same situation the Texans were in two years ago after the Laremy Tunsil trade. 

The team's best course of action is to take the hit this season, suck for a year, Fire Rhule, and hit the reset button with our likely top 5 pick in 2023. 

We are far more likely to win a SB with a QB on a rookie deal than we ever will be with Watson based on the numbers alone. 

Thank you for posting this. It should be pretty obvious though. If you have a cap at approximately $200 million to pay 53 players on the game day roster pay, you can't let one guy take up to 20-25% of the roster and expect to be balanced on both sides of the ball.

It should be easier to win a SB title as a QB matures. NFL economics actually make it harder. These days we actually see post ( TV pundits) say you gotta build a team while your frsh out of college QB is on his rookie deal. Crazy.

If the owners hard balled the agents and union in the next bargaining session by saying we aren't paying any QB above a certain percentage of the cap, I'd actually be on their side... as long as the cap was increasing at a believable rate over time.

Edited March 14, 2022 by SCO96

[trueblade]

Prior to the 2020 season, no team in 20+ years had won a Super Bowl in their own stadium.

It just happened twice.