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Ian Thomas Contract Details (also TE market is HOT)

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OTC has the breakdown of the Ian Thomas contract: https://overthecap.com/player/ian-thomas/6986/

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In short, Ian is counting ~$3.1M vs the cap this season and his last season is not likely to be earned as it's mostly (non-guaranteed) salary. To me, this contract reads like a 2-year $11.5 million dollar deal with a team option for a 3rd year. For the curious he can be cut before the start of the league year in 2023 for a small cap savings (~1.4M).

With the context that 3 TEs (Njoku, Gesicki, Shultz) have been franchised tagged, this deal may end up looking reasonable. IMO the biggest benefit is we didn't sign a FA TE to a similar contract and possibly cancel out a comp pick.

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He's very replacement level though and we just drafted Tremble who showed a lot of promise. It's not as bad as it initially seemed and I understand the TE market but I just don't understand why it was a priority to re-sign him. I don't think he would've gotten this deal on the open market.

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6 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

OTC has the breakdown of the Ian Thomas contract: https://overthecap.com/player/ian-thomas/6986/

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In short, Ian is counting ~$3.1M vs the cap this season and his last season is not likely to be earned as it's mostly (non-guaranteed) salary. To me, this contract reads like a 2-year $11.5 million dollar deal with a team option for a 3rd year. For the curious he can be cut before the start of the league year in 2023 for a small cap savings (~1.4M).

With the context that 3 TEs (Njoku, Gesicki, Shultz) have been franchised tagged, this deal may end up looking reasonable. IMO the biggest benefit is we didn't sign a FA TE to a similar contract and possibly cancel out a comp pick.

I for one appreciate the effort.  It's what I've been saying since the news came out.

But changing the huddle hive-mind from "Panthers dumb, contract dumb" to something more enlightened will be tough.

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7 minutes ago, t96 said:

He's very replacement level though and we just drafted Tremble who showed a lot of promise. It's not as bad as it initially seemed and I understand the TE market but I just don't understand why it was a priority to re-sign him. I don't think he would've gotten this deal on the open market.

Maybe McAdoo wants to run some 2 TE sets? Thomas Tremble?

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7 minutes ago, t96 said:

He's very replacement level though and we just drafted Tremble who showed a lot of promise. It's not as bad as it initially seemed and I understand the TE market but I just don't understand why it was a priority to re-sign him. I don't think he would've gotten this deal on the open market.

Manhertz got signed for the same amount last year, and he was utilized in the same way as Ian. Blocking TEs are a hot commodity in the NFL. Weird with the way the league is evolving. 

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1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

Manhertz got signed for the same amount last year, and he was utilized in the same way as Ian. Blocking TEs are a hot commodity in the NFL. Weird with the way the league is evolving. 

They are hot because there's not enough olinemen worth a tinkers damn in the league.  Five on four isn't cutting it for a large majority of the teams in the league.  So they are going 6 on 4 just to give the qb another half second to throw the ball.  

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13 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Manhertz got signed for the same amount last year, and he was utilized in the same way as Ian. Blocking TEs are a hot commodity in the NFL. Weird with the way the league is evolving. 

Thomas isn't a great blocker and Manhertz got 2 years $6M, that's nearly half as much as Thomas got...

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