2023 QBs. What I have been screaming for months now

[mrcompletely11]

This class sucks but next years is absolutely loaded with potential.  Build the line and find a guy next year.  Its going to suck next season but at least its a damn plan.

 

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I personally do not believe there is a quarterback in this year’s draft worthy of a first-round pick. Kenny Pickett is claimed to be the best, and though I would not draft him in the first round, I’m sure a quarterback-needy team will scoop him up and probably three or four more in Round 1. Are there going to be any Joe Burrows or a Trevor Lawrence type coming out of college next year?

— Joseph

While Lawrence was projected to be the No. 1 pick in the 2021 draft back when he was in high school, Burrow was projected as a sixth-rounder heading into his final season at LSU. So this is an inexact science. That said, I can all but guarantee NFL teams will be much more excited about the QBs in 2023 than they are about the crop coming out this year. I happen to think Ole Miss QB Matt Corral is the best of the bunch this year and that Liberty’s Malik Willis has the highest potential ceiling, but I hope for the sake of this year’s class that none of these QBs get forced into starting roles early. I probably won’t be too worried about that next year.

Why? Because there are two QBs who already have shown us enough to know that NFL teams will fall in love with them. Meanwhile, there is a large group of potential risers. If a few of them have big years, they’ll rocket up draft boards.

Let’s start with the two proven commodities …

Bryce Young, Jr., Alabama

The reigning Heisman Trophy winner’s size (6 feet, 194 pounds) would have drawn a lot of questions 10 or even five years ago. But after Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray were selected No. 1 and had success in the league, Young won’t be doubted because he isn’t 6-4 and 225 pounds. He’s not as fast as Murray and probably lacks Murray’s freaky arm strength, but Young’s arm is plenty strong. Plus, he’s excellent at moving in the pocket to keep plays alive. He can get you a first down if a play breaks down, but he’s more likely to buy himself that extra second to let a receiver get open.

C.J. Stroud, R-So., Ohio State

At 6-3 and 218 pounds, Stroud checks the more traditional size boxes. He also finished second in the nation behind Coastal Carolina’s Grayson McCall in yards per attempt (10.1) and threw 44 touchdowns against only six interceptions. Stroud is accurate — he completed 71.9 percent of his throws in 2021 — but not because the offense limits him to easy throws. It helps that Ohio State’s receiver room last year might have been better than the receiver rooms of a few NFL teams, but Stroud has everything NFL teams want.

Now let’s examine some other QBs NFL teams might covet in 2023.

Tyler Van Dyke, R-So., Miami

Sorry, Miami fans. I know you’re only now getting accustomed to the idea of Van Dyke as your QB1, but the 6-4, 225-pounder from Glastonbury, Conn., has the tools NFL offensive coordinators want. He was brilliant in 2021 after replacing the injured D’Eriq King, and new Miami offensive coordinator Josh Gattis has to be excited about working with the 2021 ACC Rookie of the Year. Van Dyke ended last season with six consecutive games with more than 300 passing yards and at least three passing touchdowns. The last Power 5 QB to do that? Burrow.

Phil Jurkovec, Sr., Boston College

Just because NFL teams don’t insist on prototypical size anymore doesn’t mean they don’t still love it. If the 6-5, 214-pound Jurkovec hadn’t injured his hand against UMass in September and missed six games, he might be at the combine in Indianapolis right now. Jurkovec, who started his college career in 2018 at Notre Dame and transferred to BC after the 2019 season, is playing in a new offense this season. John McNulty, who arrived at Notre Dame to coach tight ends after Jurkovec left, will call the plays in Chestnut Hill this season.

Jake Haener, Super Senior, Fresno State

There were a lot of questions about what Haener would do after throwing for 4,096 yards and 33 touchdowns in 2021. Would he go to the NFL? Would he follow Fresno State coach Kalen DeBoer to Washington, where Haener started his college career before transferring? Or would he stay in Fresno? Haener chose the last one when Jeff Tedford — who was Fresno State’s coach in 2019 when Haener was sitting out following his transfer from Washington — returned to coach the Bulldogs. With another year under the QB guru who coached Aaron Rodgers at Cal, Haener might excite some NFL teams.

Will Levis, Sr., Kentucky

The Penn State transfer thrived in coordinator Liam Coen’s offense last season and helped the Wildcats improve from 5-6 in 2020 to 10-3 in 2021. The 6-3, 232-pounder averaged 8 yards an attempt and completed 66 percent of his passes. Coen is gone, headed back to the Rams as offensive coordinator. His replacement is former 49ers quarterback coach Rich Scangarello. If Levis improves under Scangarello, he’ll have two things everyone in the NFL is looking for right now: the seal of approval of a Sean McVay-tree coach (Coen) and a Kyle Shanahan-tree coach (Scangarello).

Jaren Hall, Jr., BYU

Hall is a junior, but he’s five years out of high school. The successor to Zach Wilson missed three games in 2021 because of injury, but he showed plenty of promise. He averaged 8.7 yards per attempt and threw for 20 touchdowns against five interceptions. With receivers Puka Nacua and Gunner Romney and tight end Dallin Holker back, Hall will have plenty of weapons and could put up bigger numbers in Year 2 as the starter.

Donovan Smith, R-So., Texas Tech

The 6-5, 230-pound Smith missed all of the 2020 season because of injury and didn’t take over as the Red Raiders’ starter in 2021 until game No. 10, but his size and arm were impressive as Texas Tech played out the string under interim coach Sonny Cumbie. Smith played a disastrous game against Oklahoma State’s stellar defense, but he averaged 11.2 yards per attempt and threw two touchdown passes in a 27-24 loss to eventual Big 12 champ Baylor. Expect Smith to put up big numbers under new offensive coordinator Zach Kittley, who helped QB Bailey Zappe set records at Houston Baptist and Western Kentucky.

 

[mrcompletely11]

And they left Grayson McCall off the list

[hepcat]

There's a real tangible chance the 49ers will be drafting #1 overall with the Panthers 2023 draft pick they traded away for Jimmy Garropolo. 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

16 minutes ago, stbugs said:

JFC, the past two years have been rough enough to even think about that. If we do anything other than select OL with every pick and let Darnold take the abuse from the rookie and second year OL gelling, we are likely making yet another mistake.

This is probably the best case for Rhule to have a chance at keeping his job.  A rookie QB is likely not able to drive this team to the playoffs or a winning season.  Focus on the line.  If there is a rookie qb in a later round that sneaks thru the cracks then maybe there is an off chance you win the lottery but its definitely not worth investing the one high pick we have. 

[Jared Patterson]

Y'all all forget the one with the most potential.... Anthony Richardson. 

[Jared Patterson]

Also, heard recently the Cincinnati QB could blow up.

[Basbear]

Those are waiting and watch Rhule trade away the 2023 for "reasons", lols..

[mrcompletely11]

^, ^^

 

Yep my point is being solidified, next year has way more potential. 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

I am massively on the Stroud train. That guy is going to be a stud.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, TheMostInterestingMan said:

I am massively on the Stroud train. That guy is going to be a stud.

I like him as well.  Van Dyke (kerry collins v2) is intriguing as well.  Both have absolutely canon arms

[rippadonn]

McAdoo and Wilks alone are going to stabilize this team. With Darnold, Cam, whoever. With professionals now on the staff odds are we don't get #6 again. Jobs and reputations are on the line now and they know it.

Be SMART, do your homework. One or more of this class will play, choose one and let's finally rally behind our new QB1 and ride on! Nothing would be more entertaining than that new page and the franchise finally choosing to move forward with some hope.

Strong is the safest pick at QB in this weak draft. NFL arm, size,70% comp. for 2yrs in a row. There is no better prospect at QB in this draft. He's tough. He did have a surgery but didn't miss time. His coach said he's already savy at reading defenses and adjusting. The only reason this QB draft looks "weak" is the pundits put all these questionable guys in front of this prototype 6'4" QB who's numbers and efficiency and ARM are atop this class. 

70% this season, 70% last season, 63% completion his first year. He came in pretty decent learned and then opened whip ass.

Draft your next QB at six. Don't draft B.S. and hype, or ridiculously small hands. Guys have to win or go home now so getting a QB1 in the top ten may not be an option again.

I say f' it! Pull the trigger on a QB. Let's finally have some fun.

 

Get STRONG 2022!

 

 

[Tr3ach]

9 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

This class sucks but next years is absolutely loaded with potential.  Build the line and find a guy next year.  Its going to suck next season but at least its a damn plan.

 

https://theathletic.com/3160510/2022/03/03/dear-andy-the-next-joe-burrow-is-hard-to-predict-but-2023-qb-draft-class-will-be-exciting-plus-spring-game-exhibitions/

I personally do not believe there is a quarterback in this year’s draft worthy of a first-round pick. Kenny Pickett is claimed to be the best, and though I would not draft him in the first round, I’m sure a quarterback-needy team will scoop him up and probably three or four more in Round 1. Are there going to be any Joe Burrows or a Trevor Lawrence type coming out of college next year?

— Joseph

While Lawrence was projected to be the No. 1 pick in the 2021 draft back when he was in high school, Burrow was projected as a sixth-rounder heading into his final season at LSU. So this is an inexact science. That said, I can all but guarantee NFL teams will be much more excited about the QBs in 2023 than they are about the crop coming out this year. I happen to think Ole Miss QB Matt Corral is the best of the bunch this year and that Liberty’s Malik Willis has the highest potential ceiling, but I hope for the sake of this year’s class that none of these QBs get forced into starting roles early. I probably won’t be too worried about that next year.

Why? Because there are two QBs who already have shown us enough to know that NFL teams will fall in love with them. Meanwhile, there is a large group of potential risers. If a few of them have big years, they’ll rocket up draft boards.

Let’s start with the two proven commodities …

Bryce Young, Jr., Alabama

The reigning Heisman Trophy winner’s size (6 feet, 194 pounds) would have drawn a lot of questions 10 or even five years ago. But after Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray were selected No. 1 and had success in the league, Young won’t be doubted because he isn’t 6-4 and 225 pounds. He’s not as fast as Murray and probably lacks Murray’s freaky arm strength, but Young’s arm is plenty strong. Plus, he’s excellent at moving in the pocket to keep plays alive. He can get you a first down if a play breaks down, but he’s more likely to buy himself that extra second to let a receiver get open.

C.J. Stroud, R-So., Ohio State

At 6-3 and 218 pounds, Stroud checks the more traditional size boxes. He also finished second in the nation behind Coastal Carolina’s Grayson McCall in yards per attempt (10.1) and threw 44 touchdowns against only six interceptions. Stroud is accurate — he completed 71.9 percent of his throws in 2021 — but not because the offense limits him to easy throws. It helps that Ohio State’s receiver room last year might have been better than the receiver rooms of a few NFL teams, but Stroud has everything NFL teams want.

Now let’s examine some other QBs NFL teams might covet in 2023.

Tyler Van Dyke, R-So., Miami

Sorry, Miami fans. I know you’re only now getting accustomed to the idea of Van Dyke as your QB1, but the 6-4, 225-pounder from Glastonbury, Conn., has the tools NFL offensive coordinators want. He was brilliant in 2021 after replacing the injured D’Eriq King, and new Miami offensive coordinator Josh Gattis has to be excited about working with the 2021 ACC Rookie of the Year. Van Dyke ended last season with six consecutive games with more than 300 passing yards and at least three passing touchdowns. The last Power 5 QB to do that? Burrow.

Phil Jurkovec, Sr., Boston College

Just because NFL teams don’t insist on prototypical size anymore doesn’t mean they don’t still love it. If the 6-5, 214-pound Jurkovec hadn’t injured his hand against UMass in September and missed six games, he might be at the combine in Indianapolis right now. Jurkovec, who started his college career in 2018 at Notre Dame and transferred to BC after the 2019 season, is playing in a new offense this season. John McNulty, who arrived at Notre Dame to coach tight ends after Jurkovec left, will call the plays in Chestnut Hill this season.

Jake Haener, Super Senior, Fresno State

There were a lot of questions about what Haener would do after throwing for 4,096 yards and 33 touchdowns in 2021. Would he go to the NFL? Would he follow Fresno State coach Kalen DeBoer to Washington, where Haener started his college career before transferring? Or would he stay in Fresno? Haener chose the last one when Jeff Tedford — who was Fresno State’s coach in 2019 when Haener was sitting out following his transfer from Washington — returned to coach the Bulldogs. With another year under the QB guru who coached Aaron Rodgers at Cal, Haener might excite some NFL teams.

Will Levis, Sr., Kentucky

The Penn State transfer thrived in coordinator Liam Coen’s offense last season and helped the Wildcats improve from 5-6 in 2020 to 10-3 in 2021. The 6-3, 232-pounder averaged 8 yards an attempt and completed 66 percent of his passes. Coen is gone, headed back to the Rams as offensive coordinator. His replacement is former 49ers quarterback coach Rich Scangarello. If Levis improves under Scangarello, he’ll have two things everyone in the NFL is looking for right now: the seal of approval of a Sean McVay-tree coach (Coen) and a Kyle Shanahan-tree coach (Scangarello).

Jaren Hall, Jr., BYU

Hall is a junior, but he’s five years out of high school. The successor to Zach Wilson missed three games in 2021 because of injury, but he showed plenty of promise. He averaged 8.7 yards per attempt and threw for 20 touchdowns against five interceptions. With receivers Puka Nacua and Gunner Romney and tight end Dallin Holker back, Hall will have plenty of weapons and could put up bigger numbers in Year 2 as the starter.

Donovan Smith, R-So., Texas Tech

The 6-5, 230-pound Smith missed all of the 2020 season because of injury and didn’t take over as the Red Raiders’ starter in 2021 until game No. 10, but his size and arm were impressive as Texas Tech played out the string under interim coach Sonny Cumbie. Smith played a disastrous game against Oklahoma State’s stellar defense, but he averaged 11.2 yards per attempt and threw two touchdown passes in a 27-24 loss to eventual Big 12 champ Baylor. Expect Smith to put up big numbers under new offensive coordinator Zach Kittley, who helped QB Bailey Zappe set records at Houston Baptist and Western Kentucky.

 

To be fair, this time last year it was the exact same narrative.  Lawrence was a potential superstar but besides that this years class looked a lot stronger.  Then Howell wasnt especially impressive and Rattler did what he did and here we are.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Tr3ach said:

To be fair, this time last year it was the exact same narrative.  Lawrence was a potential superstar but besides that this years class looked a lot stronger.  Then Howell wasnt especially impressive and Rattler did what he did and here we are.

This current class was never revered like previous ones.  There were 2 dudes getting pub and thats it.  Howell and Rattler.  Its universally acknowledged at this point that there is way more volume of talent in 2023

[joemac]

Been sayin the exact same thing, Browski. Take the top LT on the board at 6. Take out lumps with Sam, or possibly Cam this season. We’re gonna be ass regardless. Then have hopefully a top 5 pick and get our franchise guy then. It’s a process after all.