Judging from Fitt's Comments, Reddick isn't coming back.

[ColumbusCounty]

25 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Don't really have a problem with it. I want to see what YGM can do with more reps. 

If we are talking run defense then YGM is arguably our best DE. 

He reminds me so much of Hardy it's scary. Hopefully he can take the same leap he did in his 3rd year.  

And that's the thing, coming out of college Derrick Brown and YGM were damn near elite in run defense iirc. I still think they can grow into that role on the Panthers though. It just doesn't help that we have questionable coaches tasked with helping them develop. 

Btw, didnt we trade away one of our picks to the Bill's for a DE????? ... wth happened to that guy? We signed him and only activated him at practice?

I must remind myself the process is working. 5-7 year plan...smdh

 

[amcoolio]

I honestly wish they would trade CMC, tank the next two years, and start clean with a #1 overall QB and 150+ million in cap in 2024. Enough with the wasted and dead cap dollars.

Ian Thomas' contract was ridiculous for his output

[ThPantherFan]

3 hours ago, BurnNChinn said:

I mean we can’t pay him 15 mil a year with al the holes we have.

Somewhere along the line you have to take a stand and tighen up the purse strings.

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, hepcat said:

Just on my quick glances, Brian Burns is f*cking TERRIBLE against the run. But that's just my dumbass assessment. 

It's not just yours.

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

5 hours ago, hepcat said:

Yea forreal wtf was that contract extension about? Tommy Tremble doesn't suck at blocking. 

Thomas is 1000% worth it. You just can’t see it yet 

[mc52beast]

So let me get this straight. We’re going to let Reddick hit free agency but couldn’t allow Ian Thomas to do the same thing…

This team is freaking screwed

[Basbear]

Look agents have already made the had talks and have a good gauge of whats available, well the smart ones with trusted contacts. 

 

I think Reddick is worth 3 years 36 millions with half guaranteed. If the agent feels thats a low ball figure and got 3+ teams willing to go 50+ over the same years, well goodluck and reddick will be missed.

I believe form about week 1-12, reddick was the best defender on the field. Shaq closed stronger and over-came an injury. 

Thats the deal when you make soooooooooooo many bad deals, someone more deserving/better has to leave. I can not think of one good recent long term deal the panthers had, Cam is the best I can think of.   

Edited March 3, 2022 by Basbear

[BurnNChinn]

7 hours ago, hepcat said:

Reddick's on Twitter saying he didn't struggle against the run. 

I went back and watched a few highlights against teams that ran all over the defense. 

Just on my quick glances, Brian Burns is f*cking TERRIBLE against the run. But that's just my dumbass assessment. I saw his ass on the ground more than any other player on the defense. 

Washington specifically ran towards Brian Burns/Marquis Haynes's side. 

Cowboys just demolished the entire Panthers D-Line

Patriots schemed the defense into hell

Bucs bodied up every Panthers player and put them on the ground

It's just a tiny defense that can't win 1 on 1 matchups

 

That’s exactly why I said in a thread I started Burns vs Reddick that I would pay Hassan and try to trade Burns

[ForJimmy]

6 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

That’s exactly why I said in a thread I started Burns vs Reddick that I would pay Hassan and try to trade Burns

Reddick isn’t worth the amount of money he will make to our team at its current state. If we were a playoff team needing a piece or two then yeah throw some money at a pricey vet pass rusher. Burns is younger/cheaper. Let YGM have his shot at the other side let’s see how they do. Most of our FA money needs to be on OL anyway. 

[Aussie Tank]

Now wouldn’t it be nice a certain Oregon pass rusher fell to 6 a man can dream right

[grimesgoat]

8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Do you have a clue on how contracts work? $8M guaranteed means that if we cut him right now he still gets $8M. It’s not spread over 3 years. The deal averages $5.5M. If he plays all 3 years he gets $16.5M, not $9-12M.

Here’s the real deal:

In 2022, he gets $6.4M but he’s still fully guaranteed $8M so if we cut him after 2020, he will get his $8M.

I haven’t seen the full break down, but the $10.1M is spread over the 2 years so about $5M a year in 2023 and 2024. 

From what I read, I think it breaks down like this...

Year 1: 6m bonus (2m per year) + 1m salary (guar) for a cap hit = 3m.

Year 2: 0m bonus (2m per year) + 4m salary (1m guar) for a cap hit = 6m,  Savings if cut = 1m (5m dead)

Year 3: 0m bonus (2m per year) + 5m salary (0m guar) for a cap hit = 7m, Savings if cut = 5m (2 dead)

The pearl-clutching about 5.5m per year is a myth.  He is probably worth 3m in 2022.  No one would come here for less, we don't have the draft capital to replace him, and we don't want to net out a comp pick if possible.

He may be worth the 6m in 2023 if Mcadoo is right. 

He is likely to be cut in year 3 for the 5m in cap savings. 

[Evil Hurney]

30 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Do you have a know how contracts work? $8M guaranteed means that if we cut him right now he still gets $8M. It’s not spread over 3 years. The deal averages $5.5M. If he plays all 3 years he gets $16.5M, not $9-12M.

Here’s the real deal:

In 2022, he gets $6.4M but he’s still fully guaranteed $8M so if we cut him after 2020, he will get his $8M.

I haven’t seen the full break down, but the $10.1M is spread over the 2 years so about $5M a year in 2023 and 2024. 

Are you asking a question or trying to be insulting?

[RumHam]

Someone tell me the direction of this franchise because we are the only one with zero.

[PandaMan]

Someone will likely give him good money.  He’s a good pass rusher and those are valuable.  Not so much against the run, but ehh we aren’t all perfect.  If he took a cheap deal here for some inexplicable reason I’d love to have him back, the whole team would.  But that ain’t happening… so go get your money my guy!