If we draft a QB, I want Carson Strong

[ForJimmy]

56 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

Willis began his career at Auburn and couldn’t become the starter. The competition on the defensive side is the offensive equivalent.

Willis couldn’t start at Auburn and Burrow couldn’t at OSU. Haskins got the nod over him so he transferred. Coaches overlook talent all the time. Hell Brady almost transferred from Michigan because he wasn’t starting his first couple years. 
 

https://saturdaytradition.com/michigan-football/tom-brady-says-he-nearly-transferred-out-of-michigan-after-being-low-on-depth-chart/

When a team like Liberty is playing against a team like Ole Miss, the talent on offense and defense isn’t equal. 

[Icege]

Finally got to finish my armchair QB scouting.

Aqeel Glass is still my favourite QB prospect in this draft in terms of overall value/upside, but if the team can trade down from #6 and pick up a 2nd rounder selection then pls go get Carson Strong.

[Ivan The Awesome]

If his knee holds up he'd be the best QB, but seeing he has those issues, I don't think this team needs to put it's #6 pick on him. If they can get him in later rounds--wait we don't have those rounds. LOL

[Mr. Scot]

I don't necessarily have strong opinions about Strong, but this story does remind me a little of that time when the Dolphins were too worried about a certain quarterback's shoulder to sign him.

I've forgotten his name. I think it was Drew something

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't necessarily have strong opinions about Strong, but this story does remind me a little of that time when the Dolphins were too worried about a certain quarterback's shoulder to sign him.

I've forgotten his name. I think it was Drew something

Its a wee bit different IMO

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Its a wee bit different IMO

It may be.

Just a reminder though that decisions like that can sometimes come back to haunt you.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

It may be.

Just a reminder though that decisions like that can sometimes come back to haunt you.

For sure yeah, but at the time Brees just had shoulder surgery and it wasnt degenerative like Strongs knee.  Miami should have signed him but at the time he failed like 2 physicals because of his shoulder and wanted a ton of money from miami.  At least that is how I remember it

[ForJimmy]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

For sure yeah, but at the time Brees just had shoulder surgery and it wasnt degenerative like Strongs knee.  Miami should have signed him but at the time he failed like 2 physicals because of his shoulder and wanted a ton of money from miami.  At least that is how I remember it

Where did you read Strong’s knee is degenerative? 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Where did you read Strong’s knee is degenerative? 

If he is having surgery hoping cadaver parts are going to help him then I got to say its a degenerative issue and not getting better on its on

[ForJimmy]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

If he is having surgery hoping cadaver parts are going to help him then I got to say its a degenerative issue and not getting better on its on

Oh ok just guessing then. I haven’t read it anywhere, just curious. 

[mrcompletely11]

8 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Oh ok just guessing then. I haven’t read it anywhere, just curious. 

Not really a guess as he is getting a cadaver cartilage in his knee which tells me it arthritic and degenerative.    Adding to the fact that his knee already has scar tissue and it swells during the season I just think once this stuff is looked at during the combine he is going to drop like a rock. 

[ForJimmy]

15 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Not really a guess as he is getting a cadaver cartilage in his knee which tells me it arthritic and degenerative.    Adding to the fact that his knee already has scar tissue and it swells during the season I just think once this stuff is looked at during the combine he is going to drop like a rock. 

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/02/the-doctor-is-in-what-to-make-of-carson-strongs-knee-issue/
 

There is a doctor’s opinion on it. It was a 70% tear that usually takes 2 surgeries to clean up. The swelling is common and expected from early stresses of playing. She thinks the longevity of the knee is pretty high. It will get the full treatment of when the NFL doctors give it a look. 
 

Strong’s knee and Pickett’s hand size will definitely give us some answers soon. 

[kungfoodude]

53 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't necessarily have strong opinions about Strong, but this story does remind me a little of that time when the Dolphins were too worried about a certain quarterback's shoulder to sign him.

I've forgotten his name. I think it was Drew something

Drew had played and had some measure of success in the NFL. Also, almost no one in the NFL would touch Brees because his injury was considered so severe the likelihood of him ever playing again was considered low(much more serious than a standard shoulder injury). 

Strong's injuries are going to be scrutinized because of players like Todd Gurley(huge red flags coming into the NFL) and also he is already am extremely immobile QB in a league where mobility is becoming more important. 

 

[mrcompletely11]

10 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/02/the-doctor-is-in-what-to-make-of-carson-strongs-knee-issue/
 

There is a doctor’s opinion on it. It was a 70% tear that usually takes 2 surgeries to clean up. The swelling is common and expected from early stresses of playing. She thinks the longevity of the knee is pretty high. It will get the full treatment of when the NFL doctors give it a look. 
 

Strong’s knee and Pickett’s hand size will definitely give us some answers soon. 

There is a lot of speculation in that article.  But the big thing to me is the doctor is comparing the surgery to non nfl players.  What is considered a success or if the knee will "hold up" is drastically different for a guy thats going to play professional football.