Official Superbowl Thread

[RJK]

Congrats to LA for buying another championship 

[4Corners]

How many HOFamers are on the current Rams team that just won the SB?

Donald - First ballot

Ramsey - trending that way

Von Miller - HOF lock

OBJ - maybe

Stafford - HOF

Amdrew Whitworth - Probably 

Cooper Kupp - probably considering the year he just has 

[glenwo2]

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

And as a final post script...

... because apparently video lies

Ron Torbert should never officiate another NFL game again, if I had my way.

 

What a total crock of sh*t this clown is.

 

[X-Clown]

3 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

That’s what I thought, you couldn’t find one so you go on this diatribe about the Lions.

Apparently Stafford is without blame for all those bad lions teams. Stafford was the garbage time king for a good 5 to 7 years of course his stats are gonna look good, not to mention he’s on pace to obliterate the pass attempt record. The rams made the SB with Goff ffs, anything short of a ring would been a massive failure.

The Lions really needed to upgrade their QB after no playoff wins in 12 years, so surely trading their "garbage time king" for a proven winner like Jared Goff who is young, had won playoff games and went to a Super Bowl was going to be the answer to their problems, right? Yup, and that paid off to the tune of *checks notes*, 3 wins.  Oh well that's just one fluky year, they were a playoff contenders before the "garbage time king" showed up right? Wow, am I seeing this correctly, that they had 8 straight losing seasons before Stafford got there, and 17 straight years before that with no playoff wins. You're right, Stafford really destroyed that well respected franchise, must just be a coincidence that his new team won a Superbowl.

You glossed right over the point about Stafford having more 4th quarter comebacks than anyone in the league since he arrived...how can that be possible if he's the garbage time king. Why do you think he's on pace to obliterate the pass attempt record? Is that something he just decided to try for when he entered the league?

You didn't address my question....is Andy Dalton a better QB and closer to HOF worthy because he has 3 Pro Bowl berths and Stafford has 1?  

 

 

 

Edited February 14, 2022 by X-Clown

[Sgt Schultz]

10 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

And as a final post script...

... because apparently video lies

OK, let's play his way: It wasn't a facemask.  But it certainly was OPI.

And for his own reference, I believe "grab and twist" are only two of the criteria.  The whole thing is: No player shall grasp and control, twist, turn, push, or pull the facemask of an opponent in any direction.

If they missed it, they missed it.  I can see how they missed it because the play got behind the official on that side, so he was looking at their backs.  Sometimes, that happens.  But let's not look at the play and act like they saw it but nothing happened.  They simply did not have an angle to see it.

[ichigo1057]

7 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I can see in Real Time that the ref missed the Cincy TD against Ramsey.  They just missed it

Yeah, I can agree with that one. The WR timed that just perfectly to get away with it. With the position the refs were in behind them and the way he pulled it probably just looked to them like the defender turned his head to look instead of being pulled. Very crafty and well done job by the WR on that one.

[ichigo1057]

1 hour ago, Sgt Schultz said:

If they missed it, they missed it.  I can see how they missed it because the play got behind the official on that side, so he was looking at their backs.  Sometimes, that happens.  But let's not look at the play and act like they saw it but nothing happened.  They simply did not have an angle to see it.

I agree with this as well. Refs really shouldn't be painting it as a "It didn't happen" narrative since replay clearly shows he did grab and turn his head. They should have said that at the angle they were in they didn't see it and that it just looked like the defender turned his head to look instead of being pulled.

[GoobyPls]

7 hours ago, X-Clown said:

The Lions really needed to upgrade their QB after no playoff wins in 12 years, so surely trading their "garbage time king" for a proven winner like Jared Goff who is young, had won playoff games and went to a Super Bowl was going to be the answer to their problems, right? Yup, and that paid off to the tune of *checks notes*, 3 wins.  Oh well that's just one fluky year, they were a playoff contenders before the "garbage time king" showed up right? Wow, am I seeing this correctly, that they had 8 straight losing seasons before Stafford got there, and 17 straight years before that with no playoff wins. You're right, Stafford really destroyed that well respected franchise, must just be a coincidence that his new team won a Superbowl.

You glossed right over the point about Stafford having more 4th quarter comebacks than anyone in the league since he arrived...how can that be possible if he's the garbage time king. Why do you think he's on pace to obliterate the pass attempt record? Is that something he just decided to try for when he entered the league?

You didn't address my question....is Andy Dalton a better QB and closer to HOF worthy because he has 3 Pro Bowl berths and Stafford has 1?  

 

 

 

Who is making the argument for Goff? Check my post history I’ve been said Goff is a game manager that’s holding the rams back. And if you want to go there the lions literally gutted their team in the offseason and Goff was on a per game game basis was slightly worse than Stafford in 2020 and I think Goff is a bottom 10 QB in the league.

 

Lol Bringing up lions regimes from decades ago to prove a point, reach any further and your arms my fall off. That difference between a real franchise QB and Stafford who is a good talented QB. You need to able to make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t, Stafford couldn’t.

 

He had a bunch meaningless comebacks against bad team, congrats to Stafford. You want me to bring Stafford record against winning teams? You want to pinpoint Stafford career in a 2 week period, go back to 2017. Facing an average bengals week 16 in playoff contention Stafford sh*ts the bed and gets eliminated from contention, next week vs the worst packers team in a decade with Rodgers in IR, he goes for 350 yards and 3 TD, so those stats you bring up look nice.

 

Nope Dalton is not HOF worthy and neither is Stafford. Btw Dalton pro bowl appearances are mostly as reserve. Now go find me a QB who has made the the pro bowl with 1 pro bowl. Still waiting 

[X-Clown]

8 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Who is making the argument for Goff? Check my post history I’ve been said Goff is a game manager that’s holding the rams back. And if you want to go there the lions literally gutted their team in the offseason and Goff was on a per game game basis was slightly worse than Stafford in 2020 and I think Goff is a bottom 10 QB in the league.

Lol Bringing up lions regimes from decades ago to prove a point, reach any further and your arms my fall off. That difference between a real franchise QB and Stafford who is a good talented QB. You need to able to make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t, Stafford couldn’t.

 

He had a bunch meaningless comebacks against bad team, congrats to Stafford. You want me to bring Stafford record against winning teams? You want to pinpoint Stafford career in a 2 week period, go back to 2017. Facing an average bengals week 16 in playoff contention Stafford sh*ts the bed and gets eliminated from contention, next week vs the worst packers team in a decade with Rodgers in IR, he goes for 350 yards and 3 TD, so those stats you bring up look nice.

 

Nope Dalton is not HOF worthy and neither is Stafford. Btw Dalton pro bowl appearances are mostly as reserve. Now go find me a QB who has made the the pro bowl with 1 pro bowl. Still waiting 

You started off by completely dismissing a player's HOF candidacy because of number of Pro Bowls, like that's the only factor in ranking a quarterbacks' play. Then when I called you out and brought up several points on why the Pro Bowl is bullshit, rather than actually explain why it's important, you move the goalpost moving about "find me a quarterback that only has one pro bowl in the HOF". 

As I suspected you moved to the trope of "wins being a QB statistic". But you can't connect the dots that it's a lot harder to win for the league's worst organization. Gee, what a surprise that the Lions have had a bad record against winning teams, it's not like that's happened to them a lot before? You picked a random 2017 game where the Lions leading rusher was something called *checks notes* Tion Green? Great job!

Why bring up Jared Goff? Well he has two pro bowls, was the # 1 pick, won playoff games, and went to a Super Bowl, probably has a better record against winning teams. Clearly that makes him a better than QB than Stafford right? Wins, check, pro bowls, check. That's all that matters right? 

Is Andy Dalton better than Matt Stafford? You still haven't answered.

 

Edited February 15, 2022 by X-Clown

[djp14]

Me, when Cotchery caught the ball:

 

Me, when they called the holding penalty on the Bengals:

 

[GoobyPls]

2 hours ago, X-Clown said:

You started off by completely dismissing a player's HOF candidacy because of number of Pro Bowls, like that's the only factor in ranking a quarterbacks' play. Then when I called you out and brought up several points on why the Pro Bowl is bullshit, rather than actually explain why it's important, you move the goalpost moving about "find me a quarterback that only has one pro bowl in the HOF". 

As I suspected you moved to the trope of "wins being a QB statistic". But you can't connect the dots that it's a lot harder to win for the league's worst organization. Gee, what a surprise that the Lions have had a bad record against winning teams, it's not like that's happened to them a lot before? You picked a random 2017 game where the Lions leading rusher was something called *checks notes* Tion Green? Great job!

Why bring up Jared Goff? Well he has two pro bowls, was the # 1 pick, won playoff games, and went to a Super Bowl, probably has a better record against winning teams. Clearly that makes him a better than QB than Stafford right? Wins, check, pro bowls, check. That's all that matters right? 

Is Andy Dalton better than Matt Stafford? You still haven't answered.

 

I dismissed cause it’s supposed to be dismissed, I bring up the pro bowl cause it’s fact. For how much of a joke the pro bowl is you still need to make it more than once in order to be a HOF player, that’s why you avoid the question like a plaque.

Pretty sure the jags have been worse than the Lions over the last 15 years, and no I picked two specific games showing the perfect description of Stafford career and why he has gaudy numbers.

 

You see unlike you I don’t view wins or pro bowls as the end all be all, I actually watch football and can tell the difference between a QB being carrried and vice versa. Goff, Dalton, Jimmy G are all the same caliber guys who can win with a loaded roster but will never be the reason you win, Stafford is more talented than these guys but he is not  on the caliber of QBs who can carry bad teams clearly showing in his Detroit years. And Stafford has had better weapons than the majority of QBs so it’s not like he was out there with trash I even thought the rams would win, why? Cause they were only a decent QB away. Again the made the SB with Goff.

 

[frankw]

If Cooks catches that pass in the end zone against the Patriots the Rams probably win a Super Bowl with Goff. Stafford was impressive in the playoffs but people will always remember the refs all the sudden deciding to throw multiple flags in the red zone on the game winning drive in the Super Bowl in their stadium. Doesn't matter what they called for the Bengals or against the Rams in previous quarters. Apple did not play well but there isn't much any defender would have been able to do if the zebras were making it clear you can't even get near Kupp. It was over right then and there.

[X-Clown]

2 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

I dismissed cause it’s supposed to be dismissed, I bring up the pro bowl cause it’s fact. For how much of a joke the pro bowl is you still need to make it more than once in order to be a HOF player, that’s why you avoid the question like a plaque.

So you're admitting the pro bowl is bullshit now. Thank you. It would stand to reason then that it should not be the primary factor to dismiss someone from consideration. Every player's career resume has a different path and every time period in NFL history is unique. If the Pro Bowl was truly based on merit then Stafford would have been in this year over Kyler Murray or in 2011 over Eli Manning. Does him being in 3 Pro Bowls versus 1 make a difference?

 

Pretty sure the jags have been worse than the Lions over the last 15 years, and no I picked two specific games showing the perfect description of Stafford career and why he has gaudy numbers.

Wait, so I thought Stafford was the reason the Lions are bad? Make up your mind. 

You see unlike you I don’t view wins or pro bowls as the end all be all, I actually watch football and can tell the difference between a QB being carrried and vice versa. Goff, Dalton, Jimmy G are all the same caliber guys who can win with a loaded roster but will never be the reason you win, Stafford is more talented than these guys but he is not  on the caliber of QBs who can carry bad teams clearly showing in his Detroit years. And Stafford has had better weapons than the majority of QBs so it’s not like he was out there with trash I even thought the rams would win, why? Cause they were only a decent QB away. Again the made the SB with Goff.

You don't pick up on sarcasm very well. 

 

Edited February 15, 2022 by X-Clown

[X-Clown]

4 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

I dismissed cause it’s supposed to be dismissed, I bring up the pro bowl cause it’s fact. For how much of a joke the pro bowl is you still need to make it more than once in order to be a HOF player, that’s why you avoid the question like a plaque.

Pretty sure the jags have been worse than the Lions over the last 15 years, and no I picked two specific games showing the perfect description of Stafford career and why he has gaudy numbers.

 

You see unlike you I don’t view wins or pro bowls as the end all be all, I actually watch football and can tell the difference between a QB being carrried and vice versa. Goff, Dalton, Jimmy G are all the same caliber guys who can win with a loaded roster but will never be the reason you win, Stafford is more talented than these guys but he is not  on the caliber of QBs who can carry bad teams clearly showing in his Detroit years. And Stafford has had better weapons than the majority of QBs so it’s not like he was out there with trash I even thought the rams would win, why? Cause they were only a decent QB away. Again the made the SB with Goff.

 

I misread the part about the Jags in my other response and couldn’t edit it. They have at least been to a conference championship recently, on the back of a great defense and running game. 

Edited February 15, 2022 by X-Clown