NFL team tiers...

[MasterAwesome]

48 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

 

I mean that chart puts us at the 5th best defense in the NFL according to EPA/play.  I'm still pretty happy with Snow overall.

[stirs]

For Panther fans, "tears" would be a better suited title

[Shotgun]

10 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

I mean that chart puts us at the 5th best defense in the NFL according to EPA/play.  I'm still pretty happy with Snow overall.

That shows how far off EPA is. Our d was bad. We were 21st in points allowed, that's the stat that matters. 

[Luciu5]

9 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

That shows how far off EPA is. Our d was bad. We were 21st in points allowed, that's the stat that matters. 

Not really. If your opponent is constantly getting 30 yard fields, they are going to score more points. Those points count against the defense, even though they are defending a short field. Not saying that is exactly what happened with us, just saying short fields makes your defense look worse than it is and we had A LOT of turnovers.

[Luciu5]

50 minutes ago, Borat said:

He's got Burrow, though. 

That's all it takes.

1. Get a QB.

2. Win.

That's it. That's basically the formula.

[Shotgun]

3 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

Not really. If your opponent is constantly getting 30 yard fields, they are going to score more points. Those points count against the defense, even though they are defending a short field. Not saying that is exactly what happened with us, just saying short fields makes your defense look worse than it is and we had A LOT of turnovers.

I think we were actually worse than 21st because teams knew they only needed to score 14-17 points to win. They played us very conservatively because of it. When teams wanted to score, they did. 

[Luciu5]

4 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

I think we were actually worse than 21st because teams knew they only needed to score 14-17 points to win. They played us very conservatively because of it. When teams wanted to score, they did. 

Cool story bro.

[MasterAwesome]

8 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

I think we were actually worse than 21st because teams knew they only needed to score 14-17 points to win. They played us very conservatively because of it. When teams wanted to score, they did. 

[Borat]

50 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

That's all it takes.

1. Get a QB.

2. Win.

That's it. That's basically the formula.

Especially true when you're paying a top ~3 QB $9mm due to the rookie wage scale...

[Pimpdaddy]

1 hour ago, Luciu5 said:

Not really. If your opponent is constantly getting 30 yard fields, they are going to score more points. Those points count against the defense, even though they are defending a short field. Not saying that is exactly what happened with us, just saying short fields makes your defense look worse than it is and we had A LOT of turnovers.

...we couldn't make one critical stop the whole game against none other than T.Heinicke....thats when I knew our D was a poser...

[ChibCU]

2 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

I mean that chart puts us at the 5th best defense in the NFL according to EPA/play.  I'm still pretty happy with Snow overall.

We've also invested heavily on the defense and played Mickey Mouse games on offensive roster building.

[mc52beast]

Do we really need a chart to tell us how bad we are? 

[Shotgun]

1 hour ago, Pimpdaddy said:

...we couldn't make one critical stop the whole game against none other than T.Heinicke....thats when I knew our D was a poser...

Hey our D looked great when we played against rookie QBs making their NFL debut, and Winston and the Cardinals backup.