The Panthers and the Rooney Rule

[SizzleBuzz]

The Dophins just hired their 2nd consecutive minority Head Ball Coach, and are being awarded draft picks for doing so.

The Dolphins employ a black GM (Chris Grier) who has been in place since 2016...been with the Dophins for 22 years and worked his way after starting as an area scout.

Both QB's on the Dolphins roster are minorities (1 black, 1 pacific islander).

Of the 7 SVP's listed on the website, 3 are black (and 4-of-8 including GM who is over them).

Interestingly, the balance of Flores's coaching-staff that is still listed on their website includes 4 black men out of 20 total coaches.

Sure looks like as an organization the Dolphins are quite "diverse" and if any of the 3 primary "control" executives (Owner, GM, Head Ball Coach) could have stood to pick up his game from a diversity/hiring perspective...

...it was Brian Flores.

Edited February 7, 2022 by SizzleBuzz

[PghPanther]

16 hours ago, Inimicus said:

Hey dumbass

That "dot" is associated with people of the Hindu faith and not the country of their origin.

 

 

 

 

Cant decide if Im shocked or dismayed that this didnt get pulled down as racist but Huddle gonna Huddle

When you mention Indians................one must make a distinction of whether we are talking about native Americans or people from the Asian continent. The simple label of a feather for the prior and dot for the latter makes the description easier........

You can untwist your panties now...........

[PhillyB]

On 2/2/2022 at 3:27 PM, Mr. Scot said:

There's a problem with any rule, law, system or whatever else human beings want to create, and it's this:

Can you make a rule that changes someone's heart?

Can you write a law that makes a bad person turn good?

Can you create a system that removes negative ideas from someone's mind?

The answer to all of these is no.

No matter how good your rule, law, system, etc is, as long as it's administered by flawed human beings, it's never going to be everything you want it to be.

You want real change? It's not gonna happen unless it happens in people's hearts and minds.

Until then, you're just reshuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.

predictably backwards and wrong.

if peoples' shitty hearts won't change you change the rules and let 'em die mad.

[rico6]

1 hour ago, PghPanther said:

When you mention Indians................one must make a distinction of whether we are talking about native Americans or people from the Asian continent. The simple label of a feather for the prior and dot for the latter makes the description easier........

You can untwist your panties now...........

Yeah, but, nobody really refers to Native Americans as (non-dot) Indians. Lmao.

[rico6]

On 2/2/2022 at 11:43 AM, 4Corners said:

Richardson is a racist POS and I’m sure his bigotry was part of the structure and gameplan with upper management. I also have a suspicion that most of the NFL owners think and operate the way Richardson did, it’s just harder now to hide it. 

Ever need to check the potential racist sect of the huddle, check this posts poo list. My god.

[PghPanther]

8 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

Native American/Indigenous People are the descendants of the people who lived here before the Europeans "discovered" this continent.

Indians are people from the country of India

Asians are people from the Asian continent.

{the more you know gif}

There are more than a billion people from the Asian continent that do not practice Hinduism.  And FYI it is primarily a decoration that women wear.

 

Get you head out of your ass and quit using stereotypes.  If you dont consider yourself a racist, using them make you look like one.

 

Your such an anthropological/sociological expert..........how wonderful. 

The only thing lamer than this website are the Panthers......

Personally I wish I could get banned from here............wouldn't miss a thing.

[PhillyB]

8 minutes ago, PghPanther said:

Your such an anthropological/sociological expert..........how wonderful. 

The only thing lamer than this website are the Panthers......

Personally I wish I could get banned from here............wouldn't miss a thing.

log out whiner 

[Jackie Lee]

2 hours ago, PghPanther said:

When you mention Indians................one must make a distinction of whether we are talking about native Americans or people from the Asian continent. The simple label of a feather for the prior and dot for the latter makes the description easier........

You can untwist your panties now...........

  I'm pretty sure no one is going through the trouble of adding a feather symbol to the word indian when you can just say native american lol. Welcome to the 2000's. The only reason the term indian was ever used is because Columbus' dumbass thought he was in India

[Khyber53]

Society in the US is continuing to evolve and will continue to but it's never fast. And the slowest to change are often at the top rung of society. Owners of NFL teams aren't just at that top rung, they are at the very, very top of that rung. Changing their hearts and minds is a very difficult thing to do, even with rules. And when it comes to that level, most aren't thinking social justice and righting wrongs, they are thinking about winning or at the least maintaining their status quo.

And that, I think, is where the Rooney Rule has made a difference. By requiring teams at least give interviews to minority candidates it does something incredibly important. In sales, the biggest hurdle is oftentimes getting past what they call the gatekeeper -- an underling of the decision maker that weeds through the throng of requests and lets in just the necessary ones to "see the king." The Rooney Rule made sure that people that were never getting through those gatekeepers would have a shot -- maybe just one per hiring round, but one just the same. Once the candidate got through they had an opportunity to make their pitch and maybe win that shot.

And that's all you can ask for, a shot. It might not be an even chance, but if enough get through, you break down the wall. It's a slow process, but it's also a very finite group of candidates. Not all of those candidates are first timers either as experienced coaches (most often white) are in the mix for every spot. And those experienced ones are always going to be at the front of the line in the waiting room. 

Right now, in the NCAA FBS, there are 14 black head coaches (at some of the biggest name universities) out of 130 constituent schools. It's just a bit above 10% of the coaching jobs. In the NFL, that would mean 3-4 head coaching positions to balance it out. It looks like there will be three this upcoming season barring some kind of change (five if you count Rivera and Saleh who are respectively Latino and Arabic.)

These are top end positions in the field, though. Head coaches in the FBS and NFL are a rare job title in the overall scheme of things in America. Still, we should be at a point in our society where the makeup of our institutions reflects better on the makeup of our nation and our People. In that, we're running behind mightily.

The Rooney Rule, for all the ways it has been bent and adulterated by those in charge of the league, still serves a mighty purpose -- it keeps that gate cracked open, if just a little bit. Eventually, if enough people get through that gate, they'll have the numbers and strength to force it open. And every minority GM that comes into the League helps as much if not more.

Keep the Rooney Rule and maybe give it's penalties for non-compliance some teeth, close up a couple of loop holes and let it keep breaking down the barriers. It's hard to change hearts and minds without a generation shift, but it is very possible through action to change what normal is. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, PhillyB said:

predictably backwards and wrong.

if peoples' shitty hearts won't change you change the rules and let 'em die mad.

Oh sure. That's worked really well in society so far.

Good luck with that

[PhillyB]

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Oh sure. That's worked really well in society so far.

Good luck with that

if we waited for peoples hearts to change none of the major civil rights advancements of the past century would've happened 

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

if we waited for peoples hearts to change none of the major civil rights advancements of the past century would've happened 

Actually, I'd say people changing their hearts has a lot more to do with progress in that area than changing laws.

And of course, you can't really legislate people's opinions and ideas. Even the legislation of actions goes only so far (this thing called the Constitution tends to get in the way).

[PhillyB]

5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Actually, I'd say people changing their hearts has a lot more to do with progress in that area than changing laws.

And of course, you can't really legislate people's opinions and ideas. Even the legislation of actions goes only so far (this thing called the Constitution tends to get in the way).

lol

[micnificent28]

On 2/2/2022 at 1:38 PM, SmokinwithWilly said:

First, try and get a minority group as buyers for the Broncos. Then consider adding 4 more franchises all to be minority owned if and only if there are enough qualified applicants for the Broncos franchise. Those owners will then have the ability to hire those they feel are qualified to do the job, regardless of color, opening the door for more experience and candidates in the future. 

this sounds awfully close to segregation.