Alright screw it, take Pickett

BlitzMonster · February 1, 2022

I still hope the Panthers take an LT with their #6 pick. But with Campen now on the staff, I have confidence the OL is going to be fixed in some way, shape or form next season.

So this leads me to be somewhat OK if the coaching staff really likes one of the QB in the first round and takes him. The Panthers should have their choice of the entire class since I don't think any team before us needs a quarterback (except maybe the Giants ??).

Mother Grabber · February 1, 2022

47 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Lol, moving UP for a QB this year! Heck, we could move back and still get one.

then they aren’t expected to be a franchise level QB

mickeye76 · February 1, 2022

Have y'all did ANY research on the upcoming crop of QBs? Legit they like five guys that are seen as 1st rounders (not weak class inflated stock) and this is a strong class of oline. We have a legit chance of taking Neal for instance. If Houston and Detroit decide to go pass rusher (very talented top heavy class) then both the NY teams take Ikem and Cross for instance. Sitting at six and taking Neal, Cross or Ikem is the a nice problem to have. Only way we could f this up is reaching for a QB.

mickeye76 · February 1, 2022

30 minutes ago, BlitzMonster said:

I still hope the Panthers take an LT with their #6 pick. But with Campen now on the staff, I have confidence the OL is going to be fixed in some way, shape or form next season.

So this leads me to be somewhat OK if the coaching staff really likes one of the QB in the first round and takes him. The Panthers should have their choice of the entire class since I don't think any team before us needs a quarterback (except maybe the Giants ??).

Choice of runts of the litter. Next year is gonna be a game changing crop. Being inpatient and rushing the process will hurt us.

45catfan · February 1, 2022

20 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

then they aren’t expected to be a franchise level QB

Explain that to half the Huddle.

Draft a QB=Superb Owl!!!

amcoolio · February 1, 2022

10 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

We are not trading back for a QB when you have a glaring need on the offensive line. Sam Darnold came to a Carolina situation that was too similar to the Jets. You have Darnold under contract so you let him play it out. Draft offensive linemen to build for whatever QB of the future you take in 2023.

Sam Darnold could play behind the NFC Pro Bowl offensive line for a full season we'd still have a terrible offense. Get the quarterback, then figure out the rest later.

weyco2000 · February 1, 2022

21 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Again, do you even see a Hebert in this draft? I don't. It was a coin flip if the Dolphins were going to take Tua or Herbert. Herbert could have easily been QB2 behind Burrow. If picks 2-4 needed a QB, he could have went higher. Point being, this class is not great and blindly throwing darts at the board hoping you hit a bulls eye is not a strategy...it's desperation.

Which QB stood out this season from last years draft? Jeez, talk about desperation.

Icege · February 1, 2022

1st Round

2021 - Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields Mac Jones
2020 - Joe Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love
2019 - Kyle Murray, Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins
2018 - Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson
2017 - Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson
2016 - Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Paxton Lynch
2015 - Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota
2014 - Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater

2nd Round

2021 - Kyle Trask
2020 - Jalen Hurts
2019 - Drew Lock
2017 - DeShone Kizer
2016 - Christian Hackenberg
2014 - Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo

3rd Round

2021 - Kellen Mond, Davis Mills
2019 - Will Grier
2018 - Mason Rudolph
2017 - Davis Webb, CJ Beathard
2016 - Jacob Brissett, Cody Kessler
2015 - Garrett Grayson, Sean Mannion

4th Round

2021 - Ian Book
2020 - Jacob Eason, James Morgan
2019 - Ryan Finley, Jarrett Stidham
2018 - Kyle Lauletta
2017 - Josh Dobbs
2016 - Connor Cook, Dak Prescott, Cardale Jones
2015 - Bryce Petty
2014 - Logan Thomas (TE), Tom Savage

5th Round

2020 - Jake Fromm
2019 - Easton Stick, Clayton Thorson
2018 - Mike White
2017 - Nathan Peterman
2016 - Kevin Hogan
2015 - Brett Hundley
2014 - Aaron Murray, AJ McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, David Fales, KEith Wenning, Tajh Boyd, Garrett Gilbert

6th Round

2021 - Sam Ehlinger
2020 - Jake Luton
2019 - Gardner Minshew, Trace McSorley
2018 - Luke Falk, Tanner Lee
2017 - Brad Kaaya
2016 - Nate Sudfeld, Jake Rudock, Brandon Allen, Jeff Driskel

7th Round

2021 - Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields Mac Jones
2020 - Cole McDonald, Ben DiNucci, Tommy Stevens, Nate Stanley
2018 - Danny Etling, Alex McGough, Logan Woodside
2017 - Chad Kelly
2016 - Brandon Doughty
2015 - Trevor Siemian

UDFA

2021 - Collin Hill, Shane Buechele, Jamie Newman, Feleipe Franks
2020 - Tyler Huntley, Kevin Davidson, Riley Neal, Jalen Morton, Nick Tiano, Shea Patterson, Bryce Perkins, Josh Love, Brian Lewerke, J'Mar Smith, Case Cookus, Khalil Tate, Broc Rutter, Anthony Gordon, Reid Sinnett, Steven Montez
2019 - Tyree Jackson, Jake Dolegala, David Blough, Brett Rypien, Kyle Shurmur, John Lovett, TJ Linta, Gage Ferguson, Manny Wilkins, Jake Browning, Nick Fitzgerald, Drew Anderson, Wilton Speight, Taryn Christion
2018 - Austin Allen, Kyle Allen, Reggie Bonnafon, Kurt Benkert, Jack Henegan, Chad Kanoff, Peter Pujals, Tim Boyle, Dalton Sturm, Nic Shimonek, Quinton Flowers
2017 - Zach Terrell, Nick Schuessler, Kyle Sloter, Eli Jenkins, Zach Conque, PJ Walker, Tyler Ferguson, Cooper Rush, Austin Appleby, Taysom Hill, Wes Lunt, Trevor Knight, Nick Mullens, Skyler Howard, Tyrone Swoopes, Alek Torgerson, Sefo Liufau
2016 - Joe Licata, Jason Vander Laan, Max Wittek, Mike Bercovici, Joe Callahan, Marquise Williams, Joel Stave, Jake Coker, Trevone Boykin
2015 - Jason Lovelocke, Shane Carden, Jameill Showers, Brandon Bridge, Anthony Boone, Kevin Rodgers, Bryan Bennett, Nick Marshall, Jake Waters, Taylor Heinicke, Devin Gardner, Cody Fajardo, Andrew Hendrix, Tyler Murphy, Cole Stoudt, Dylan Thompson, Connor Halliday
2014 - Jeff Matthews, Connor Shaw, Dustin Vaughn, Bryn Renner, James Franklin, Chase Rettig, Seth Lobato, Stephen Morris, Travis Partridge, Logan Kilgore, Taylor Martinez, Brendon Kay, Kory Faulkner, Keith Price, Brett Smith, Tommy Rees

Folks are more than welcome to use that list to confirm whatever bias they already have. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

rayzor · February 1, 2022

4 minutes ago, Icege said:

7th Round

2021 - Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields Mac Jones

Icege · February 1, 2022

5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

God damn copypasta!

EDIT: JUST missed the edit window. Gdi.

fwiw there were no 7th rd QBs in 2021

Edited February 1, 2022 by Icege

rayzor · February 1, 2022

1 minute ago, Icege said:

God damn copypasta!

EDIT: JUST missed the edit window. Gdi.

fwiw there were no 7th rd QBs in 2021

BlitzMonster · February 1, 2022

1 hour ago, Icege said:

1st Round

2021 - Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields Mac Jones

2020 - Joe Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love

2019 - Kyle Murray, Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins

2018 - Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson

2017 - Mitchell Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson

2016 - Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Paxton Lynch

2015 - Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota

2014 - Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater

. . . . .

Folks are more than welcome to use that list to confirm whatever bias they already have. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Great list. Thanks for posting.

With a quick analysis, it looks like around 1/2 of 1st round QB's make it as decent starters (depending on how you want to define "decent"). And of these starters, many went 1.1 in the draft.

After that, it's basically nobody. Derek Carr and Dak Prescott were starters from the later rounds but that's 2/65 if I counted correctly. And that ratio ignores the multitude of UDFA. I'd guess most of the UDFA QB's were just training camp arms.

My takeaway is if you don't get a QB in the 1st, it's not going to happen. And actually it should be high in the first, like the top 10 picks or even top 5.

Shocker · February 1, 2022

1 hour ago, Icege said:

God damn copypasta!

EDIT: JUST missed the edit window. Gdi.

fwiw there were no 7th rd QBs in 2021

WTF is up with the edit window here? Is that to just fug with us or what? Why not make in like 5 mins.

Edited February 1, 2022 by Shocker

BlitzMonster · February 1, 2022

One more takeaway from Icege's QB list: most every year had at least one or two good QB's.

Even 2014, which seemed like the worst of the bunch, had Teddy Bridgewater. He may be limited in a lot of ways but Bridgewater can game manage OK. Maybe 2015 had none with Jameis Winston currently a FA.

But almost every class has talent. It's all about finding the guy who's a good fit for your system and developing him correctly.

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