Trench Talk with Mike Wahle

[kungfoodude]

 

This is a REALLY exceptional listen for the OL fans. 

[KSpan]

To paraphrase, "We lost more games in the NFL because of poor technique, than poor scheme" was a really interesting comment.

 

[PantherBoy95]

Oh man; look how slim he is.  Crazy how much they just fatten these guys up during their careers.

Kudos to Mike, I remember he and Ken Lucas were some exciting signings back then.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, KSpan said:

To paraphrase, "We lost more games in the NFL because of poor technique, than poor scheme" was a really interesting comment.

 

He hits a lot of good points. He definitely covers one thing that I get annoyed that fans don't appreciate or realize. The idea of taking project players and molding them. As a professional athlete, that requires the motivation to go get better every day ON YOUR OWN. I saw that with what Horn was doing in the offseason. 

So when you bring in a guy and talk about how you are gonna develop him(especially a veteran), I already have a good idea you don't know what you are talking about. Sam Darnold is the most obvious example but we have had plenty of them.

You want guys that actively pursue getting better every day. Those guys will be much more successful.

[NYPantherFan]

16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He hits a lot of good points. He definitely covers one thing that I get annoyed that fans don't appreciate or realize. The idea of taking project players and molding them. As a professional athlete, that requires the motivation to go get better every day ON YOUR OWN. I saw that with what Horn was doing in the offseason. 

So when you bring in a guy and talk about how you are gonna develop him(especially a veteran), I already have a good idea you don't know what you are talking about. Sam Darnold is the most obvious example but we have had plenty of them.

You want guys that actively pursue getting better every day. Those guys will be much more successful.

Only reason you sawctgat with Horn is because his camp put it out there.

I wouldnt say Darnold is an obvious example and isnt motivated to get better. Pretty sure Darnold still trains with Jesse Palmer and Bills QB Josh Allen in the offseason. 

[hepcat]

We got an Austin FC fan!

[ThPantherFan]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

This is a REALLY exceptional listen for the OL fans. 

big Smoove with his cigar killed it for me.  As pointed out, many highschool players watch the podcast.  Big Smoove should put the cigar down.  I know Cam smokes and he should do the same.  Good information though.

[rayzor]

Hard to teach an old dog new tricks. Guys who haven't gotten it right after 3-5 years in the league likely aren't going to figure it out later on. I don't care how good you think your coaching is. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

 

This is a REALLY exceptional listen for the OL fans. 

Great listen. I'm on OL fan. You can really tell the guys who work on technique vs the guys who rely on mass/athleticism. Good balance, leverage, and technique can overcome power and speed most of the time. That's why I love watching the big guys doing the footwork drills at the combine. You can really tell a lot in those few drills about how well some of these guys are going to do. 

[SuperBowlBound]

9 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Hard to teach an old dog new tricks. Guys who haven't gotten it right after 3-5 years in the league likely aren't going to figure it out later on. I don't care how good you think your coaching is. 

Examples: Cam Erving and Pat Elflein.....smfh

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, NYPantherFan said:

Only reason you sawctgat with Horn is because his camp put it out there.

I wouldnt say Darnold is an obvious example and isnt motivated to get better. Pretty sure Darnold still trains with Jesse Palmer and Bills QB Josh Allen in the offseason. 

Not saying he isn't trying but there is only so far you can get when you start so low.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, ThPantherFan said:

big Smoove with his cigar killed it for me.  As pointed out, many highschool players watch the podcast.  Big Smoove should put the cigar down.  I know Cam smokes and he should do the same.  Good information though.

The cigar was great. Looked like a Padron 1964 or 1926. 

[ThPantherFan]

33 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The cigar was great. Looked like a Padron 1964 or 1926. 

Don't get me wrong, I've got no problem with someone who smokes.  I use to and enjoyed a pipe and cigar on occasion.  Just no a good signal to up and coming players.  

[L-TownCat]

Where’s @Mr. Scot?  An oline thread and he’s MIA?