After today, everyone should understand

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There's no Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Luck prospect in this draft but most franchise QBs weren't that type of prospect. That's why you pay scouts. Go find the franchise QB. 

Or spend 60M on rehab projects and pray they become something they have never been. 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

You know it's not that simple. If it were, then all teams would have franchise QBs.

It really is though. That doesn't mean you bat 1.000 by any means. But identifying the right QB and drafting him really is the key to turning around a dumpster fire franchise.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Or spend 60M on rehab projects and pray they become something they have never been. 

Yep. 

That team in your av has been all over a particular QB prospect in this draft. Instead of trying to outsmart everyone else maybe we should try paying attention to what smart organizations are doing.

[Fox007]

34 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Do you fire Rivera after only one shitty year removed from a super bowl? Plus the year after we went 11-5. This could’ve been hindsight.

Yea I do wonder if Rivera would have been better with say Beane as Gm or just a good GM at all. Rivera has only ever had shitty GMs so that's a valid argument IMO.

 

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. 

That team in your av has been all over a particular QB prospect in this draft. Instead of trying to outsmart everyone else maybe we should try paying attention to what smart organizations are doing.

   Just a heads up. The Steelers OL is just as bad as the Panthers. Difference is they have the cap space and draft picks to attempt to fix it. Panthers….not so much. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

   Just a heads up. The Steelers OL is just as bad as the Panthers. Difference is they have the cap space and draft picks to attempt to fix it. Panthers….not so much. 

Yep.

[tiger7_88]

19 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He won an MVP with Ted Ginn Jr. as his #1 WR. If you think Cam was our problem...

That’s EXACTLY what he thinks and EXACTLY what he’s always thought if you’ve been paying attention to him.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

That’s EXACTLY what he thinks and EXACTLY what he’s always thought if you’ve been paying attention to him.

Oh, I know. The guy thinks he's slick but he's always been one of the most obvious Cam haters on this forum.

[top dawg]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It really is though. That doesn't mean you bat 1.000 by any means. But identifying the right QB and drafting him really is the key to turning around a dumpster fire franchise.

When you're in franchise QB purgatory like we are, like the Bills were pre-Allen, drafting a franchise QB can take years. The swing-miss rate is real. There's nothing wrong with continuing to build your team into a turnkey contender and plucking a franchise QB from someone else. Hell, the Broncos did it, and the Bucs did it last season. But I do agree in a perfect world.

We should've taken the swing last year, but our HC thinks he's smart.

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Yea I do wonder if Rivera would have been better with say Beane as Gm or just a good GM at all. Rivera has only ever had shitty GMs so that's a valid argument IMO.

 

With one GM: 51-28-1  4 playoffs in 5 years 

With other GM: 25-39  not even a .500 season. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

When you're in franchise QB purgatory like we are, like the Bills were pre-Allen, drafting a franchise QB can take years. The swing-miss rate is real. There's nothing wrong with continuing to build your team into a turnkey contender and plucking a franchise QB from someone else. Hell, the Broncos did it, and the Bucs did it last season. But I do agree in a perfect world.

We should've taken the swing last year, but our HC thinks he's smart.

There's nothing wrong with that approach except everything. These guys are terrified to draft a rookie QB high. Why? I have no idea. But we aren't winning poo until we find a QB. I don't care if we recreate the 90s Cowboys OL.

[45catfan]

"Buffalo scored a touchdown on all seven of its possessions outside of a kneel-down at the end of the game, becoming the first team in the Super Bowl era to score a TD on each of its first seven drives of a playoff game, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

The Bills also became the first team in NFL history to go an entire playoff game without a punt, field goal or turnover."

This is what a competent offense looks like

[top dawg]

3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

That’s EXACTLY what he thinks and EXACTLY what he’s always thought if you’ve been paying attention to him.

Now that's the actual thing that I have regret about, even though as a fan I could do nothing; If Cam had just been afforded better protection, there's no telling how many fortunes would have been changed. 

[CmC2k]

If Scott Fitterer and Dan Morgan identify a franchise QB in the draft, then you run to the podium and select him. No more trying to take short cuts at fixing the most important position in football. Cam isn't the player he once was and he's not coming back to play for Rhule and Sam while he shows just some truly great throws and physical talent at times his mental game is just completely shot, and our staff has no way of fixing him.