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Doesn't sound like QB in cards at 6

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30 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

A few things.  They 100% have a big board as we speak.  All teams have a working board 365 days a year.  Obviously that changes weekly,monthly, daily(?) but the scouting people always have something of a foundation all year.   I doubt they know who they are drafting but I would bet at this point its whittled down to a dozen or so players.  They just have to dig deep in the research, interviews, combine......but I doubt any of that changes the big board dramatically outside of totally removing a player because of injury attitude or whatever

This is just not an accurate depiction of the process. High-level personnel guys are not worried about putting together a big board during the season. Sure they might make a handful of trips to watch the obvious big time prospects, but they are not going to get really educated on who the scouts know and what they know about them until right about now. 

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26 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Alright its worded weirdly or I read it wrong I thought you were saying the swap pick plus a 1rst, 2nd,......

 

Also there is just no chance a prospect like Ekwono is dropping out of the top 10.  He is the highest rated lineman ever from PFF.  Everything about the kid is off the charts.  No way he falls out of the top 10 and I am thinking now he is picked before 6.

Quite frankly, no NFL team gives a poo about PFF's grade. Who cares? They're clueless. 

I think Ekwonu is really good. There are going to be question whether he's a tackle or a guard. I think he can play tackle, but his athletic testing and measurements are going to be key to answering that question that because he's got a borderline-looking body based on eye test. 

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31 minutes ago, Smittymoose said:

There is not a "0.0% chance." Ridiculous to even say something like that so far away from the draft. Teams are just entering the evaluation process. 

It's not two firsts. Try reading my post again. 

Coaches are just beginning to enter the evaluation process, not the teams. The scouts have been evaluating these prospects directly for months, and indirectly for even years. 

As for this draft, depending upon where we trade down, I doubt we'll be able to get Ewonu outside the 10, but it could happen. Being that this is considered a deep class, we should be able to get a quality lineman though (all the way into day two it seems).

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Just now, top dawg said:

Coaches are just beginning to enter the evaluation process, not the teams. The scouts have been evaluating these prospects directly for months, and indirectly for even years. 

As for this draft, depending upon where we trade down, I doubt we'll be able to get Ewonu outside the 10, but it could happen. Being that this is considered a deep class, we should be able to get a quality lineman though (all the way into day two it seems).

Scouts of course have been evaluating individual players and have their opinions. Teams are nowhere close to putting together a board and actually piecing their draft together. You think the GM is sitting around during the season evaluating college kids while he's got to manage in-season transactions? No chance. 

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1 minute ago, Smittymoose said:

Scouts of course have been evaluating individual players and have their opinions. Teams are nowhere close to putting together a board and actually piecing their draft together. You think the GM is sitting around during the season evaluating college kids while he's got to manage in-season transactions? No chance. 

No I don't, but I also don't think that our GM is as clueless about the top prospects as is perhaps being suggested. No chance of that either.

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56 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I've researched all of this stuff. I used to make the same types of argument that you're making. After years of research, I'm certain that the scouting process begins in earnest well before now.  

Of course nothing is set in stone, it's way too early. But neither Mobile or much of anything else at this point is going to change the way that these execs and analysts will think about the top prospects at QB. Fitterer isn't just talking out of the side of his neck. If anything, he'd be talking them up for trade value.

Oh wow well if you have researched it!!

he’d be talking them up for trade value if he wanted another team to come up for one

he’d be talking them down if he was worried that another team may come up ahead of them-as happened when they demonstrated their public interest last year

All that comment implies by you making it is that you have your own personal and meaningless assessment of the QBs and are working your way back from there

”if I don’t like these guys, why would he? This must be what this means.”

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