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Rhule staying, the silver lining

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onmyown Grand Master

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Silver lining, don’t bitch, it’s all we have people:

1. The cap. It isn’t great now but will be abundant in 2023.

1a. Contracts. I believe big contracts/5th year options are due 2023/2024 barring negotiations beforehand. Also, things like CMCs clause etc. The new coach should and will have a say on these. We won’t really be stuck with anyone, at least not for long, aside from Moton and possibly Shaq (who will be restructured).

2. Gutted draft. Between this and the cap…it really could not be a worse starting point for new regimen.

3. Taking into consideration points 1 and 2, this isn’t at all a desirable spot to land as an new HC, added to the fact there is no QB or oline here. There is nothing but a decent defense to sell to upcoming coaches (who care about winning and money) compared to other teams, we’re bottom of the barrel all things considered.

3a. With a great cap outlook in 2023 and all draft picks, and a ton of new NFL coaches this year, next year, we will have better luck finding much needed coach willing to come in a more coach-friendly environment for success. ‘Pick of the litter’ or what have you.

4. Poor QB draft. Next year is much, much better. Along with the cap and another poo season from Rhule, great position for a coach to come in to. In our state as it is, no worthwhile QB will come here and a new regimen will be doomed for a year or forced to reach.

5. Controversial maybe, but I believe it will matter to some coaching talent out there the fact Tepper gave a more than a reasonable amount of time (three years) to Rhule. For a fan this sucks but as a potential coach I think this matters.

6. Fitt or a new GM will finally get their input on the coach. Why you let Hurney have input on a coach and then fire him? Quite the ass backwards blunder. Pretty rare to see this happen, especially with an unproven coach, college at that.

(possible) 7. Tepper learns his lesson. Yet to be seen, but he gains more experience and possibly gets the help he needs to do this right. Hard to not admit some level of failure when Rhule fails again and fans called it the year prior. Smart people learn from mistakes. We must as fans hope for this from our team’s owner. Hopefully we see something here.

Rhule may be here next year, time to accept nothing will be done about this. I feel Tep would be smart to keep Rhule on track in his own ‘process’ and demand results with Darnold, don’t even let him draft a QB.

What’s important now is keeping these silver linings in place.

I feel what is going to be interesting is how much leeway he will have not only on trading future draft picks but also signing players long term/new contracts that a new regimen may not. This will be telling. And for all that’s holy, we can only hope he will be on a very short leash in this regard.

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24 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Hope this teaches Tepper not to give unproven people a contract so large the buyout is astronomical. 
Next coach needs to be given a more standard 4 or 5 year contract. 

He has enough money to afford all of this. If he is just keeping him around to save face, that isn't gonna work either.

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These points are a sunken cost fallacy. What's done is done but leaving Rhule in place means no development for players currently here or other organizational improvements, and that's the main reason ditching him now appears the right move.

The lack of winning is front and center but Rhule's most egregious failures are the crappy roster moves, lack of strategic aptitude, and overall team regression during his tenure. Any coach that comes in and actually shows progress on the latter 3 retains their job even if the winning slowly comes, and all 3 are achievable in most any circumstance... pretty simple. 

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Jokes aside, a lot of these things can change with panicked, win now moves. We literally saw that happen this season. 

Remember when Bill O'Brien had complete control and he was on the hot seat? The Texans literally still haven't recovered from that. 

Truest statement and why I keep saying if you think this year is fuged just wait. By the time Rhule is done we will be back in cap hell with limited picks and a coach who has ran off to the college ranks again. 

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Jokes aside, a lot of these things can change with panicked, win now moves. We literally saw that happen this season. 

Remember when Bill O'Brien had complete control and he was on the hot seat? The Texans literally still haven't recovered from that. 

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Brilliant huh...give a derpass full control then be like btw you're about to be fired....then also expect nothing unusual to happen. Tepper is are a gene eye us

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7 hours ago, onmyown said:

The new coach should and will have a say on these.

What new coach? You're assuming that Rhule will be fired during or after his third season. It's better to just assume he'll still be here and being pleasantly surprised if he's fired. Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate should be engraved over every entrance into BOA.

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If ownership doesn't set limits Rhule can dig a much deeper hole for thr Panthers to dig out of after he is finally fired. Future draft picks, next year's abundance of cap and contacts trying us to the wrong guys because they were Rhule guys could kill off some of those silver linings.

At the moment Tepper appears MIA. Not good for us in 2023. Limits need to be set on Rhule before the offseason activities starts. 

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