Regarding Kevin Colbert

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

was he though?  Who had the final say on Tomlin?  My guess the owner.

If Tomlin is a large part of their success and if the owner had the final say on Tomlin then Colbert can't be the architect of the whole thing.

 

Oh sure, because the Steelers were never successful before Tomlin

Colbert built the entire structure, the scouting department, pro personnel, their free agency policies, he ran it all from the time he was hired and the team only had one losing season on his watch.

But yeah, he was really just "a piece of the puzzle"

Edited January 30, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[AU-panther]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Oh sure, because the Steelers were never successful before Tomlin

and who picked that coach?  did he pick Cower?  I doubt it.

Mike Tomlin on Steelers’ draft room: Art Rooney is the boss (yahoo.com)

People are naïve if they think NFL owners aren't involved, the only question is how much.  

Pretty much all of them are going to have final say on the HC, maybe they use a search committee, maybe they have internal people running the search, or maybe the do an informal search but at the end of the day they are the ones that usually decide who it is.  

Same with the draft, they might not be making each individual pick ,but if its a top-10 pick, especially if the team is looking at a QB, you can bet they have final say.

Everyone is trying to make Tepper out to be some Snyder or Jones type of owner, and actually he far from that.  He actually seems to let his football people make most of the decisions. 

You can question his choice of "football people", Rhule seems like a huge miss at this point, but this idea that he is like Snyder or Jones is ludicrous, if anything he seems to be too patient and hands off.

 

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, AU-panther said:

and who picked that coach?  did he pick Cower?  I doubt it.

Mike Tomlin on Steelers’ draft room: Art Rooney is the boss (yahoo.com)

People are naïve if they think NFL owners aren't involved, the only question is how much.  

Pretty much all of them are going to have final say on the HC, maybe they use a search committee, maybe they have internal people running the search, or maybe the do an informal search but at the end of the day they are the ones that usually decide who it is.  

Same with the draft, they might not be making each individual pick ,but if its a top-10 pick, especially if the team is looking at a QB, you can bet they have final say.

Everyone is trying to make Tepper out to be some Snyder or Jones type of owner, and actually he far from that.  He actually seems to let his football people make most of the decisions. 

You can question his choice of "football people", Rhule seems like a huge miss at this point, but this idea that he is like Snyder or Jones is ludicrous, if anything he seems to be too patient and hands off.

You're really committed to this narrative, aren't you?

Go ahead with it, dude. Just understand pretty much everyone else knows how valuable Kevin Colbert has been. The fact that you don't know sh-t about him doesn't change the facts.

[AU-panther]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You're really committed to this narrative, aren't you?

Go ahead with it, dude. Just understand pretty much everyone else knows how valuable Kevin Colbert has been. The fact that you don't know sh-t about him doesn't change the facts.

and who had final say on the coach?

You are the one committed to this narrative, the heck with facts.

 

[Toomers]

6 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

and who picked that coach?  did he pick Cower?  I doubt it.

Mike Tomlin on Steelers’ draft room: Art Rooney is the boss (yahoo.com)

People are naïve if they think NFL owners aren't involved, the only question is how much.  

Pretty much all of them are going to have final say on the HC, maybe they use a search committee, maybe they have internal people running the search, or maybe the do an informal search but at the end of the day they are the ones that usually decide who it is.  

Same with the draft, they might not be making each individual pick ,but if its a top-10 pick, especially if the team is looking at a QB, you can bet they have final say.

Everyone is trying to make Tepper out to be some Snyder or Jones type of owner, and actually he far from that.  He actually seems to let his football people make most of the decisions. 

You can question his choice of "football people", Rhule seems like a huge miss at this point, but this idea that he is like Snyder or Jones is ludicrous, if anything he seems to be too patient and hands off.

 

 

 

 

 

   The Steelers( with Cowher) were in free fall in 1999. Then the Rooney handed control to someone for the first time ever. That’s when Colbert turned things around. 7 years and a SB before Tomlin. Do you really believe the Rooney are vetoing Colbert choices with his resume. The Rooney approved Tomlin after he was recommended by Colbert. The Steelers haven’t chosen a QB top 10 since Bradshaw. You are just way off on this. I think I would have an informed opinion on this. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, AU-panther said:

and who had final say on the coach?

You are the one committed to this narrative, the heck with facts.

Who's talking strictly about the coach?

Kevin Colbert had control of the entire Steelers organization. As mentioned, he rebuilt the whole damn thing from the ground up. That's what we're talking about in this thread, rebuilding the whole Panthers team structure.

Quoting the original post:

For those of you (us) hoping that David Tepper would call on longtime Steelers exec Kevin Colbert to help straighten out the unholy mess that is the Panthers football operational structure (i.e. Matt Rhule in control of everything), some info from Peter King's latest column...

You didn't even know what the discussion was about, so no wonder you're off the rails here

[AU-panther]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Who's talking strictly about the coach?

Kevin Colbert had control of the entire Steelers organization. As mentioned, he rebuilt the whole damn thing from the ground up. That's what we're talking about in this thread, rebuilding the whole Panthers team structure.

Quoting the original post:

For those of you (us) hoping that David Tepper would call on longtime Steelers exec Kevin Colbert to help straighten out the unholy mess that is the Panthers football operational structure (i.e. Matt Rhule in control of everything), some info from Peter King's latest column...

You didn't even know what the discussion was about, so no wonder you're off the rails here

I'm fully aware of how the conversation started, and I actually think the could be an asset to the organization, but to say the was in charge of the whole damn thing is an incorrect statement.

 

[AU-panther]

8 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   The Steelers( with Cowher) were in free fall in 1999. Then the Rooney handed control to someone for the first time ever. That’s when Colbert turned things around. 7 years and a SB before Tomlin. Do you really believe the Rooney are vetoing Colbert choices with his resume. The Rooney approved Tomlin after he was recommended by Colbert. The Steelers haven’t chosen a QB top 10 since Bradshaw. You are just way off on this. I think I would have an informed opinion on this. 

i don't think so

10 Critical Dan Rooney Decisions that Shaped the Pittsburgh Steelers (steelcurtainrising.com)

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[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

I'm fully aware of how the conversation started, and I actually think the could be an asset to the organization, but to say the was in charge of the whole damn thing is an incorrect statement.

Sure you did

But hey, if that helps you feel like you're saving face...

[AU-panther]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Sure you did

But hey, if that helps you feel like you're saving face...

deflection

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, AU-panther said:

deflection

Irony

[AU-panther]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Irony

exactly

 

[Khyber53]

On 1/28/2022 at 8:00 PM, Toker Smurf said:

Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. I'm happy with Fitterer. Tepper could pay Colbert a few million to shape the organization and potentially assist with the hiring of a new coach next year. Colbert wouldn't have to put in 80 hours a week.

Honestly, we just need someone to whisper in the owner's ear: "You don't want to do that."

That would be massively helpful if you have a guy like Colbert with all of that accumulated wisdom to be that whisperer.