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"They both can do that"

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frankw Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Who else do you want? People in here wouldn’t mind throwing $20M a year at Cam for a few years. We could trade our 1st for Jimmy G or someone else.

I already know that, with only a 1st and day 3 picks and Sam guaranteed almost $19M, we aren’t competitive so I’d rather suck for a top 2024 QB. If, god forbid, something crazy happens and we pick a stud LT at 6, BC and Brown come to camp stronger/leaner and Sam improves, great. Am I pinning our future on that, no fuging way.

Again, what else do you propose? Seems to me like you have a replacement in mind which is either reaching on a QB in a supposedly poor QB class or trying out one more vet because Teddy, Sam and Cam part deux have been revelations. We should have done our suffering through a rebuild in 2020 like Miami did in 2019 and Jax/Jets did in 2020. Maybe their QBs won’t lead them to a SB but at least they did a tank properly, got picks, saved cap and drafted a QB early in the first so they are trying. We are limping and I’m tired of limping.

I'm done with these awful attempts to acquire other teams cast offs. You want to wait until 2024 to draft a quarterback? I would be willing to go OL this year and let whomever start for the upcoming season but why do so many fans think everything will just fall into place next year or the year after for our franchise? The NFL is not going to do us any favors and we have shown time and time again with now two different coaches we can't even lose the right way if we know there is a top pick on the horizon. I have zero faith we will magically back our way into a franchise quarterback playing the waiting game and sitting on the sidelines. But that's just me.

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8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Typo, 2023. I don’t see the 2022 QB class as worth the risk and we finally appear to have a good chance at a solid LT so 2023 is the earliest. I’m done as well, hence we’ve already fuged up and paid for Sam. Let’s use 2022 draft as our OL draft mixed with getting Brown and BC in the off-season program now and let Sam steer the ship. Either he still sucks and we get a good pick or he does better than expected and he’s got some trade value. I’d give it a 0.5% chance that Sam turns a miracle corner with a real OC and a better OL and becomes our franchise QB. Back to OL, with pick 6 and some luck in our 4 day 3 picks, we may have a decent OL in 2022 and maybe even some depth and with day 2 picks (should have 3 with a comp), we can finish off a starting 5 and also add more quality depth/competition.

One question about not wanting to play the waiting game, what is your alternative to drafting a QB or were you just thrown off by my typo?

The 2022 class is certainly a risk but it's that way every year regardless of the hype train one or two prospects may garner or how some may go overlooked. I assumed it was a typo. Again I'm fine building the interior of the oline but i don't think we have to do so exclusively through the draft. My preference route has been draft I wanted a QB last year and we once again went defense. Nothing at all against Horn but that pick will be discussed for years to come. I'm just exhausted with putting things off and we've done that with two of the most important positions on the team with QB and left tackle. This franchise will wear you down.

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14 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

At this point in his career Darnold is much faster than Cam.   Does that matter on a sneak?  Not really at all.  Cam is bigger so would it have been a better choice?   Definitely.   How many people have complained about Cam coming in just for a snap to be a battering ram though? 

The biggest issue with that play call wasn’t even Cam or Sam 

the biggest issue was 

1. Tampa’s strength is that interior dline of Suh and Vea

2. The panthers abysmal weakness at interior line strength is unforgivable 

3 what brilliant play call, of the hundreds of possibilities do the OC and HC call?

4. A direct challenge to the defending super bowl team’s strength with their own teams weakness 

you just cannot make this poo up.  

So many things they could have done and they take the easy, lazy, bullshit of ‘we should be able to get a foot’  bullshit

this is quite possibly the worst coaching staff I have seen at this level.  Ever 

the goal is to evade their strength, not play into.  That is the chess game by competent nfl coaches every fuging Sunday 

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51 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

The biggest issue with that play call wasn’t even Cam or Sam 

the biggest issue was 

1. Tampa’s strength is that interior dline of Suh and Vea

2. The panthers abysmal weakness at interior line strength is unforgivable 

3 what brilliant play call, of the hundreds of possibilities do the OC and HC call?

4. A direct challenge to the defending super bowl team’s strength with their own teams weakness 

you just cannot make this poo up.  

So many things they could have done and they take the easy, lazy, bullshit of ‘we should be able to get a foot’  bullshit

this is quite possibly the worst coaching staff I have seen at this level.  Ever 

the goal is to evade their strength, not play into.  That is the chess game by competent nfl coaches every fuging Sunday 

I agree with the fact they were going directly at the teeth of the TB defense.

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