In my ideal world

[Cdparr7]

In my ideal world, Tepper sales the team to Ben Navarro. The stadium gets natural grass back. Keep Pounding gets the recognition it deserves. We keep building the place in Rock Hill but people don’t remember Tepper for it. We promote Dan Morgan to GM and fire Matt Rhule. We hire Hackett, Eberflus, or Pederson. Darnold is kept as a back up due to the contract but we build the OL in free agency and take a QB in the draft. 

[kass]

16 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

We’ll the principal is the same for me. I don’t know how the chart grades the values well but in this case, would you be willing to make a move like this? I would absolutely be willing to move down 20 spots and add a 1st and 3rd next year. I feel that protects the future and still gives Rhule a first to hopefully begin the Oline improvement this season

I would consider it. More picks is most often better, except when you have a really high pick.

So it would depend on how the draft board looks like and what grades I have on the o-line and QB prospects at the end of first and early second round. And taking a look at next year's prospects.

I could talk myself into swing and miss on these fringe QB prospects. And it would not affect my plan to take a QB with the first rounder the next year. Somewhat what Cardinals did with Rosen and Murray, you try till you hit. Maybe trade back before doing so. But O-line is of course an option. 

[rmoneyg35]

My problem with Rhule compared to Rivera is that we were about a .500 team each year and was competitive. Under Rhule we don’t seem to be developing any talent and a lot of guys seem to be regressing. We don’t seem to be competitive and Rhule seems to be cutting/trading players that end up doing great for the other team. Rhule also seems to show loyalty to players from  his college days which is dumb. PJ Washington shouldn’t be our back up, we should have had a nfl vet as our back up to help Darnold this year. Our first round pick from last year doesn’t seem to be developing, we are moving players to different positions like Chinn instead of letting them play a position they are good at.

[LinvilleGorge]

In my ideal word, the Bucs blow us out in hilarious fashion tomorrow and Tepper accepts Rhule is trash, fores him, and hires an offensive minded head coach who drafts Sam Howell.

 

[ThPantherFan]

2 hours ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

I would like to see us attempt to trade away this years 1st

Everyone's intitled to their opinion but I disagree strongly.  We need the 1st round.  I agree we need the 2nd, 3rd, etc. too.  I just don't agree with your wisdom on this.

[ThPantherFan]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I have considered that myself.  Limit the future damage Rhule could do to this team by taking away his ability to trade away future picks.  Its the best case scenario really.  But I fear it's a pipe dream. 

I agree on tying Rhules hands in someway to keep from giving away the farm.

[CRA]

Last time we took a draft out of a coaches hands was the 2010 draft. 

I agree we need to do it if Rhule stays.  But you essentially end up with a draft class no one coach wanted.  

[ThPantherFan]

2 hours ago, cookinbrak said:

I'm trying to be less cynical this year, so- no comment.

Best answer so far.

[MHS831]

Glad you are back

[Stumpy]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

In my ideal word, the Bucs blow us out in hilarious fashion tomorrow and Tepper accepts Rhule is trash, fores him, and hires an offensive minded head coach who drafts Sam Howell.

 

You had me until...

*shudders*

until...

*retches violently*

until...

[SmokinwithWilly]

In my ideal world,

1. we get blown out tomorrow resulting in Rhule getting canned. 

2. We hire an actual NFL staff with experience

3. We manage to trade down and aquire at least a second but remain high enough in the 1st to aquire one of the top 3 tackles or Linderbaum if the trade is sweet enough to move down that far

4. No high priced FA. Darnold plays out year 5 as a backup. Cam or whoever at QB. Wait until 2023 to draft one. Get what we can and don't overpay our FAs on one year wonders. 

5. Build a real culture in Carolina of winning and enough talking about it. Just fugging do it already. 

[Faithfulfankinda]

Im just disappointed that Tepper has allowed him to retain "total roster control" limit Rhules ability to make moves on his own... Have him stick to coaching, leave player and staffing managment to the GM.. 

[bigjohn]

My plan... for what it's worth (if we are keeping Rhule).

-Hire an OC with NFL experience.

-Draft O-line. Doesn't really matter who's there at QB with the current line. First round, then package some later round picks to move up to 2nd or 3rd if possible, and draft another offensive lineman.

-Bring back Darnold and Cam.  No need to trade away any draft capital or decent players currently on the roster for a QB, because we're going to be mediocre anyway at best.  Darnold may be decent with a better line and another year working with the present receivers and McCaffery. Regardless, costs too much to try to upgrade at the QB position.

-Play McCaffery more in the slot than at RB. Maybe we can keep him healthy longer that way. At the very least, limit his carries between the tackles for goodness sake.

Then Tepper can fire Rhule next season and hopefully draft a quarterback.

 

Of course, would rather cut ties with Rhule as option 1. 

[Fox007]

On 1/8/2022 at 8:37 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

In my ideal word, the Bucs blow us out in hilarious fashion tomorrow and Tepper accepts Rhule is trash, fores him, and hires an offensive minded head coach who drafts Sam Howell.

 

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