Is Tepper a bottom 5 owner?

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:

the jaguars have been terrible for two decades. Their current owner has been in place over ten years. 

If Tepper is still flailing to find a coach in year eleven, fair enough. 

I don't think most people have the patience to devote their time to / spend their hard earned money on a team that might be good seven years from now.

Edited January 9, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[Cary Kollins]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't think most people have the patience to devote their time to / spend their hard earned money on a team that might be good seven years from now.

Who’s saying that lol, nice straw man. My response was in regards to you comparing the panthers to the Jags, which is ridiculous at face value. All I’m saying is people claiming Tepper is one of the worst owners in the league 3.5 years into the gig is a childish overreaction, which is not uncommon on sports message boards. 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Cary Kollins

[Snake]

No, he's a new owner. It's too early to determine if he's even a bad owner. 

[Mr. Scot]

37 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:

Who’s saying that lol, nice straw man. My response was in regards to you comparing the panthers to the Jags, which is ridiculous at face value. All I’m saying is people claiming Tepper is one of the worst owners in the league 3.5 years into the gig is a childish overreaction, which is not uncommon on sports message boards. 

It's not a comparison of the Panthers and Jags. It's an example showing the silliness of suggesting that better facilities equals good ownership.

Do you have any evidence to offer on the football side of the equation that would support the notion of David Tepper being a good owner?

Not facilities, not investments, not anything besides the actual on the field product...

Edited January 9, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[Cary Kollins]

57 minutes ago, Snake said:

No, he's a new owner. It's too early to determine if he's even a bad owner. 

This is the only correct answer.

[Wes21]

On 1/8/2022 at 5:12 PM, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

Depends on the metric.  In terms of actual results on the field yeah, Carolina is one of the true shitcan teams.  For actual football Tepper is bottom five.

For other aspects, Dan Snyder is the worst person to own an NFL franchise and it's not close.  Kroenke and Spanos basically told their original host cities and fans to go fug themselves.  The McNairs are documented assholes.  Up until very recently Bucs fans didn't have anything good to say about the Glazers.  Of course the Lions are perennial garbage.

e: Tom Benson was a scumbag too.  He was actively working toward moving the Saints out of New Orleans after Katrina until Paul Tagliabue basically talked him out of it.

Your post took a weird turn with the Ford's.  The Ford's are bad owners...for results on the football field.  For much of everything else they are actually pretty good owner's.  

I would swap out the Lions for the Bengals.  That guy is a trip if you start digging deep into the details.  Before Marvin Lewis got to the Bengals, players were not allowed to take Gatorade home.  That's a small example of how cheap and far behind they were...and they haven't caught all the way up yet.