If Vic Fangio is fired from the Broncos I think he should be interviewed for DC

[hepcat]

If Tepper really decides to bring back Matt Rhule for another season, after I finish vomiting, I will pound the table for the Panthers to hire NFL caliber coordinators on BOTH sides of the ball. 

Phil Snow is the lesser of two evils on the Panthers coaching staff. But the cold hard fact is he's a Matt Rhule bro. Matt Rhule's bro I was critical of the Phil Snow hire immediately given his lack of upward mobility in the NFL. The highlight of his career including being the LB coach of the winless 2008 Lions.

And let's not kid ourselves, the defense wasn't as good as the numbers indicate. Was part of that on the offense for failing to ever sustain drives? Yes. But let's not sugar coat it. The rush defense was f*cking terrible this year. The Panthers gave up 100+ yards on the ground in 9 games this season. All losses. 

I'm firmly in favor of moving on from Phil Snow if there is a proven NFL caliber DC who could be brought in to right the ship. Vic Fangio checks all the boxes and could serve as an interim head coach if/when Rhule is fired.

The thing is, the Broncos have similar issues to the Panthers with lack of stability at the QB position. Their defense has some talent but hasn't been able to carry the team the way their 2015 defense did. And unlike the Panthers, the Broncos were able to beat a few teams with a winning record this year.

Fangio is still a very good DC and probably a better DC than head coach. I think given the talent the Panthers have on defense that Fangio might be a great fit with this group. 

But we will probably still see Phil Snow as DC running college style formations and getting bodied up in the run game to the tune of a few 200 yard games on the ground next season. Sigh.

[Mr. Scot]

Of all the coaches I could potentially see Matt Rhule letting go of, Phil Snow is probably last on the list 

[Jon Snow]

Snow will go when Rhule goes.  He could retire to save Rhule's ass but I doubt Rhule parts ways with Snow willingly.

[hepcat]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Of all the coaches I could potentially see Matt Rhule letting go of, Phil Snow is probably last on the list 

I'm hoping that Matt Rhule being retain comes with some stipulations, like bringing in some NFL caliber coordinators.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, hepcat said:

I'm hoping that Matt Rhule being retain comes with some stipulations, like bringing in some NFL caliber coordinators.

I have a hard time seeing that working. Not just because it would be a hugely awkward situation for anybody to come in to a job where the coach was essentially forced to hire them even though he didn't really want to, but also because I've gotta believe a guy like Fangio would have better options available.

[hepcat]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I have a hard time seeing that working. Not just because it would be a hugely awkward situation for anybody to come in to a job where the coach was essentially forced to hire them even though he didn't really want to, but also because I've gotta believe a guy like Fangio would have better options available.

Better football wise? Maybe. Desperate Tepper money though? Might overpay for quality guys a lot.

[Waldo]

Snow does all of the heavy lifting and is what a Rhule team is built around. So sure, that would be fun to watch. A house with no foundation, what could go wrong lol?

[Ricky Spanish]

I'm hoping that Tepper mandates Rhule Hire actual NFL caliber coordinators, but Rhule refuses on grounds of loyalty, so Tepper has no choice but to fire him. 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, hepcat said:

I'm hoping that Matt Rhule being retain comes with some stipulations, like bringing in some NFL caliber coordinators.

The moment you realize you need to start implementing stipulations, you should realize you've got the wrong guy to begin with.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Ricky Spanish said:

I'm hoping that Tepper mandates Rhule Hire actual NFL caliber coordinators, but Rhule refuses on grounds of loyalty, so Tepper has no choice but to fire him. 

Perfect.

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Perfect.

Too slow. Just 

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Better football wise? Maybe. Desperate Tepper money though? Might overpay for quality guys a lot.

They still have to work together though.

But again it circles back to the question, if you have to go to this kind of extreme to save your head coach from himself, why you keeping him?

[t96]

There's really no reason to replace Snow, he's done a nice job with a very young D. Not perfect by any means, but his D is in one of the worst situations in the entire league. Offense that can't sustain drives, ST that sucks and a HC that has no in-game situational awareness. Snow isn't even a part of the issue here honestly.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, t96 said:

There's really no reason to replace Snow, he's done a nice job with a very young D. Not perfect by any means, but his D is in one of the worst situations in the entire league. Offense that can't sustain drives, ST that sucks and a HC that has no in-game situational awareness. Snow isn't even a part of the issue here honestly.

Disagree. Opposing teams figured out how to attack Snow's schemes about four or five weeks into the season.

We've concentrated a lot of our personnel acquisition on the defensive side, which is probably the only reason we still look even halfway effective there at all.