No more Wonderlic

[Mr. Scot]

Speaking of intelligence...

I find this to be a pretty smart statement

[AU-panther]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

It was unnecessary anyway. It didn't inherently speak to a player's ability to succeed on the football field. They can learn, execute and succeed at their jobs without it.

do we know that or are we just assuming?

You would think at some points some team tried to look at the data and see if there was some type of correlation to success.

 

[AU-panther]

18 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Gronk is actually pretty smart and his lovable dumb jock thing is largely just a shtick.

Why Rob Gronkowski wanted to save all his NFL paychecks (cnbc.com)

story was early in his career he saved his NFL paychecks and just lived off endorsements.  If that is true that makes him smarter than most people period.

 

[outlaw4]

The Wonderlic is like standardized testing; a way to quantify something that isn't really quantifiable. 

[PandaMan]

It didn’t really serve much purpose but it was fun to see the results.  There were average trends for position groups which I found interesting.  I think RB was lowest and OL (they lumped them all in together) was highest 

[top dawg]

40 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

do we know that or are we just assuming?

You would think at some points some team tried to look at the data and see if there was some type of correlation to success.

 

Check the Wonderlic scores of star players throughout NFL history, and some QBs in particular. Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Big Ben, Cam. These dudes did not even score 30 out of 50 points. Even the GOAT scored 33.  A Wonderlic score might be good for something--measuring IQ for some fields--but playing football at a high level doesn't appear to be one of them.

Edited January 5, 2022 by top dawg

[AU-panther]

8 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Check the Wonderlic scores of star players throughout NFL history, and some QBs in particular. Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Big Ben, Cam. These dudes did not even score 30 out of 50 points. Even the GOAT scored 33.  A Wonderlic score might be good for something--measuring IQ for some fields--but playing football at a high level doesn't appear to be one of them.

unless you have access to every player any assumption about a correlation is nothing more than a guess

 

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

unless you have access to every player any assumption about a correlation is nothing more than a guess

 

They were public knowledge for a long time in draft profiles

[PandaMan]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Could be, but as I recall his family went on Celebrity Family Feud and came off looking like dimwitted meatheads.

I think TE was like #2 in the average Wonderlic score by position.  Maybe he’s truly playing big brain games this whole time… or he dragged them down to #2 from #1

[AU-panther]

15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They were public knowledge for a long time in draft profiles

and did anyone take the time to really see if there was a correlation between the scores and sucess?

because if they didn't any opinion whether they were actually helpful or not is nothing more than a guess.

With as much money and resources that most NFL teams dedicate to the draft I'm sure some of the teams actually did, and the fact that the test stayed part of the combine for this long might indicate there was actually some sort of correlation that at least some of the teams appreciated, but that is just a guess.

 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Speaking of intelligence...

I find this to be a pretty smart statement

Quinn needs to watch Scarface a couple more times to get that quote right. 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

See no issues with it. They're also changing a route WRs run and a route RBs run during evaluation. They're making these kids more like cattle every day. Can you catch? Run? Juke? GOOOOD. We don't care about anything else!

[Basbear]

Did it turn victim to the racism labels?

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Just now, Basbear said:

Did it turn victim to the racism labels?

That's what this thread will end up doing.