Just how terrible are the Panthers?

[Waldo]

7 minutes ago, Snake said:

They still suck and have for a lot longer than us. 

And we used to be mediocre. Stuff changes. We are the new Lions/Browns until we change that. 

[PandaMan]

2 hours ago, Waldo said:

Browns and Lions are tending up shockingly. It's us, the Jets and the Jags and there is no need to wait till next year, we have arrived this year. 

Yep, Browns made the playoffs last year and might’ve this year if they didn’t botch Baker’s injury.  They should’ve rolled with Keenum many, many weeks ago.  Shades of our 2019 with a clearly injured QB.  Don’t know what to make of Campbell yet but he loves his team and they’ve at least been on the upswing as the year has gone on.  
 

trading for Sam and Rhule’s incompetence at OL were hitting the iceberg, now we’re flooded and our fat ass is hanging out of the water.  If we keep him, crack!  Down we go.  

[CRA]

3 hours ago, Waldo said:

Browns and Lions are tending up shockingly. It's us, the Jets and the Jags and there is no need to wait till next year, we have arrived this year. 

Jags in a much better position. 

They have a rookie QB on a rookie deal. 

Will be getting a new HC

They will have the top pick in the draft again and are stocked with picks for the 22 draft

They also will be getting back their other #1 draft pick from this season that missed all of this year. 

They have great cap space to make moves. 

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Jags in a much better position. 

They have a rookie QB on a rookie deal. 

Will be getting a new HC

They will have the top pick in the draft again and are stocked with picks for the 22 draft

They also will be getting back their other #1 draft pick from this season that missed all of this year. 

They have great cap space to make moves. 

I agree with all of that but they will still fug it up. It's what they do since the Stache bought them. They used to be a small market team now they are another clown show.  They will most likely ruin their QB, waste their cap and still be picking top 5 next year. 

[Waldo]

11 minutes ago, PandaMan said:

Yep, Browns made the playoffs last year and might’ve this year if they didn’t botch Baker’s injury.  They should’ve rolled with Keenum many, many weeks ago.  Shades of our 2019 with a clearly injured QB.  Don’t know what to make of Campbell yet but he loves his team and they’ve at least been on the upswing as the year has gone on.  
 

trading for Sam and Rhule’s incompetence at OL were hitting the iceberg, now we’re flooded and our fat ass is hanging out of the water.  If we keep him, crack!  Down we go.  

I think this was Baker's prove it year up there. Baker is basically a better Sam, lots of comparisons on Twitter. The Browns got Berry, the guy we should have fired Hurney for and they are making smarter moves since. I honestly am not sure on Baker's injury or who forced what. They could pick up a rookie and play Baker on his 5th year option next year while working on  project rookie, I would. Or they could trade Baker to a sucker like us for what we gave up for Sam, I would if I was them at this point. 

Still they are competing while we are not. That stinks big time.