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Brady Christensen scores highest ratings of the season at LT again.

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3 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

yeah that one

 

Eflin and Miller...  Miller passes off his guy to Eflin.. Eflin gets blasted and  "thrown" into the pocket totally closing that lane and escape route.. Miller can't  get back to 93 on the stunt.. 93 gets Darnold by the leg as he trying to get out the other way where Cam and Moton are battling.. Darnold slowed by 93 around his legs gets Horse collared by Cam...

The blame should again be on Miller and Eflin not being able to block the same DT stunt they've lost to Atleast 20x this season..

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2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I dont get all the x is a LT now but will be better at guard or RT in the NFL.    Kiper said Slater would move to guard in the NFL and he is now a pro bowl LT.  I think it comes down to coaching.  I did see Neal body slam a pass rusher on Sat.  Just got underneath his shoulder pads and lifted him up.  It was glorious 

Neal is glorious. Pair him with brown on the right. Let moton and Brady man the left. Find a center. Still not sold this works out year one as the C is still a poo show (elf, Erving, draft, FA) and a huge part to make the right line calls (kalil was a master at this). 

I would play bully ball with that line if they could get a center to go with them.

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16 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

The one where eflin got thrown on his ass is that the one you're talking about??

did Elflein guy get the sack?  no, so you can't assign it to him

Actually Elflein probably got a neutral grade on that play.  He blocked his guy ok, Miller's guy's acutally got past Miller and peeled off and basically blindsided Elflein.  That would happen to most centers and honestly his guy still got pushed back behind Sam.  

I'm not saying the line did great but who the sack is attributed to is irrelevant.  From a grading perspective, which all teams do after the game, Jordan probably got a negative grade for giving up the early pressure that caused Sam to run into the sack.  Miller might have got a negative grade also for letting his man cross his face so easy and getting depth.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Eflin and Miller...  Miller passes off his guy to Eflin.. Eflin gets blasted and  "thrown" into the pocket totally closing that lane and escape route.. Miller can't  get back to 93 on the stunt.. 93 gets Darnold by the leg as he trying to get out the other way where Cam and Moton are battling.. Darnold slowed by 93 around his legs gets Horse collared by Cam...

The blame should again be on Miller and Eflin not being able to block the same DT stunt they've lost to Atleast 20x this season..

that still doesn't say who to assign the sack to.

Also Sam is starting to leave the pocket when 73's man dives at his legs.  

Here again I'm not saying the line did great on the play, you are the one caught up who to assign the sack to, which you still haven't answered.

 

 

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1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

did Elflein guy get the sack?  no, so you can't assign it to him

Actually Elflein probably got a neutral grade on that play.  He blocked his guy ok, Miller's guy's acutally got past Miller and peeled off and basically blindsided Elflein.  That would happen to most centers and honestly his guy still got pushed back behind Sam.  

I'm not saying the line did great but who the sack is attributed to is irrelevant.  From a grading perspective, which all teams do after the game, Jordan probably got a negative grade for giving up the early pressure that caused Sam to run into the sack.  Miller might have got a negative grade also for letting his man cross his face so easy and getting depth.

 

 

 

Okay agree to disagree.. I think you can blame more then 1 player for certain failures in plays.. my opinion..

Eflin getting thrown by a LB into the pock6rt is a failure on that play..

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1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

that still doesn't say who to assign the sack to.

Also Sam is starting to leave the pocket when 73's man dives at his legs.  

Here again I'm not saying the line did great on the play, you are the one caught up who to assign the sack to, which you still haven't answered.

 

 

How many times do I have to say Eflin and Miller..

2 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Eflin and Miller...  Miller passes off his guy to Eflin.. Eflin gets blasted and  "thrown" into the pocket totally closing that lane and escape route.. Miller can't  get back to 93 on the stunt.. 93 gets Darnold by the leg as he trying to get out the other way where Cam and Moton are battling.. Darnold slowed by 93 around his legs gets Horse collared by Cam...

The blame should again be on Miller and Eflin not being able to block the same DT stunt they've lost to Atleast 20x this season..

I said it 4x in the breakdown.. Moton man got the sacked but it was the Interior of Miller and Elfin that failed in that play...

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56 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

How many times do I have to say Eflin and Miller..

I said it 4x in the breakdown.. Moton man got the sacked but it was the Interior of Miller and Elfin that failed in that play...

no, it was Jordans man that caused the initial pressure that started the entire chain of events that caused the sack. 

Watch the play in slow motion, Sam starts to leave the pocket when Jordan's defender dives at his legs and that is even before Elflein gets pushed to the side of him.  Also most centers in that situation are going to get pushed back if they get hit unexpected from the side like he was.  Maybe that is poor communication but that is on Miller to communicate that his guy is looping, Elflein isn't even looking that way.  

Jordan easily got beat the worst on the play.

 

 

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1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

no, it was Jordans man that caused the initial pressure that started the entire chain of events that caused the sack. 

Watch the play in slow motion, Sam starts to leave the pocket when Jordan's defender dives at his legs and that is even before Elflein gets pushed to the side of him.  Also most centers in that situation are going to get pushed back if they get hit unexpected from the side like he was.  Maybe that is poor communication but that is on Miller to communicate that his guy is looping, Elflein isn't even looking that way.  

Jordan easily got beat the worst on the play.

 

 

Agree to disagree... Jordan and his defender 92 makes Sam side step.. Sam has to jump the fug out of the way when Elfin body flys at him like Jazzy jeff  on the fresh prince..

 

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4 hours ago, chbright said:

Neal is glorious. Pair him with brown on the right. Let moton and Brady man the left. Find a center. Still not sold this works out year one as the C is still a poo show (elf, Erving, draft, FA) and a huge part to make the right line calls (kalil was a master at this). 

I would play bully ball with that line if they could get a center to go with them.

I hope they don’t try to get cute and mix it up like this. Moton is a great RT and ok LT. I’m not a fan of drafting a RT at 6 that might be an upgrade over Moton and then playing Moton out of position. If we draft Neal he needs to be our LT and hopefully a great one. LT Neal, LG BC, RT Moton would he a good core with a FA G/C plus late rounder to compete with Brown. 

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