Now start cam

[YourLastThought]

I think Cam is probably a definite good backup at this point in his career. I wish we had a solid young QB that Cam could mentor and share some wisdom with like Derek Anderson did with him. Cam isn't what he once was obviously but I think he still has some solid skills to be a great backup/mentor to a young QB and Cam is just a leader with a leaders presence on the sidelines. I would really like to see Cam still with the team next season in some sort of role. He has an electric personality in the locker room and I feel his contributions could still be extremely valuable. I may be biased but Cam still has some years left and could very well extend his career as a backup and a teacher as well as a huge locker room leader and motivator. Who knows, maybe Cam even discovers there is a place for him in coaching while doing this. He has a place here and I feel he just needs to transition a little into a new veteran role. Oh and please fire Rhule's ass thanks.

[Icege]

"Sam doesn't have trade value" really doesn't help folks' arguments because it's not like Cam has any. 

 

Edited January 3, 2022 by Icege

[MechaZain]

5 hours ago, Icege said:

"Sam doesn't have trade value" really doesn't help folks' arguments because it's not like Cam has any. 

Cam's on a one year deal it's literally not an option

[Icege]

1 minute ago, MechaZain said:

Cam's on a one year deal it's literally not an option

Exactly. PJ's runs up too iirc, so can't throw him out there either.

[Cpt slay a ho]

14 hours ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

The thread is about Cam, not them. Sam and PJ are in the same class as Cam though. Backup QB if I’m being polite. Happy now? It’s not like the Huddle is short of Sam Darnold hate posts. Read the front page if you don’t think it’s fairly skewed 

The reason people pile on Sam are simple, he showed nothing to warrant giving up draft picks for and then we prematurely pick up his 5th year option and since then he’s played worst than any of his previous years with the jets, mostly because of circumstances here. 
 

the guy off the street that has performed better, he’s done and won’t have a job next year according to some posters, doesn’t add up

[Darvinsun]

20 hours ago, Cookie Lyon said:

Cam needs to demand to be released from this dumpster fire.

Let Darnold continue to get clobbered behind this line.

It's too late for that tho  how many games left?

[Darvinsun]

17 hours ago, ickmule said:

Cam won’t be on an NFL roster next season. Write it down.  

He will not. Even if he is just an Andy Dalton  he will not be on a team that has a decent line and wrs. This is what Cam needs right now. I hate to see him go but game over. No matter the circumstances he will not get a fair shake. It's time. Game over!

[Waldo]

I would be fine with Cam as the QB next year as the bridge QB we should have done 2 years ago. Unfortunately our staff tied themselves to Darnope so here we are. It's better for Cam anyways, I wouldn't wish this job on any player I actually liked or cared about. 

At this point Sam is the QB this crew of idiots deserves and I hope their careers chokes on it. He is awful and I'm not sure if he is better than PJ but that is the junk yard the Panthers have become. 

I would take a beat down Cam over the other 2 rejects any day this year if it wasn't already proven the he couldn't prop up this broken offense and that Rhule has no real respect for the better QB because he made his bed with a busted Sam.

[outlaw4]

9 hours ago, YourLastThought said:

I think Cam is probably a definite good backup at this point in his career. I wish we had a solid young QB that Cam could mentor and share some wisdom with like Derek Anderson did with him. Cam isn't what he once was obviously but I think he still has some solid skills to be a great backup/mentor to a young QB and Cam is just a leader with a leaders presence on the sidelines. I would really like to see Cam still with the team next season in some sort of role. He has an electric personality in the locker room and I feel his contributions could still be extremely valuable. I may be biased but Cam still has some years left and could very well extend his career as a backup and a teacher as well as a huge locker room leader and motivator. Who knows, maybe Cam even discovers there is a place for him in coaching while doing this. He has a place here and I feel he just needs to transition a little into a new veteran role. Oh and please fire Rhule's ass thanks.

Would Cam be willing to take that type of role now? I don't believe he was back when we released him. Cam thought he was still starter material and wanted an extension. With the Patriots, he learned the hard way that he was no longer the player he once was. I would like to think he finally understands that he can only do so much with his legs and arms and can only play within his limits which will only narrow from now on. Unfortunately, too many around here can't see that yet.

3 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

The reason people pile on Sam are simple, he showed nothing to warrant giving up draft picks for and then we prematurely pick up his 5th year option and since then he’s played worst than any of his previous years with the jets, mostly because of circumstances here. 
 

the guy off the street that has performed better, he’s done and won’t have a job next year according to some posters, doesn’t add up

It's fair to criticise his play but the vitriol thrown against Sam has gotten far too out of hand. Ultimately, the people who are making the decisions have responsibility. They pulled the trigger, overcompensated and worst of all, are sabotaging their own plan by continuing throwing Sam out into the very same environment that made his Jets career a failure instead of letting a more experienced QB like Cam try to manage this disaster. 

[YourLastThought]

3 hours ago, outlaw4 said:

Would Cam be willing to take that type of role now? I don't believe he was back when we released him. Cam thought he was still starter material and wanted an extension. With the Patriots, he learned the hard way that he was no longer the player he once was. I would like to think he finally understands that he can only do so much with his legs and arms and can only play within his limits which will only narrow from now on. Unfortunately, too many around here can't see that yet.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to find out and see if he is interested in that type of veterans mentor backup role. I am as big a fan of Cam as they get and appreciate all he did for the organization. I also think he was wonderful in our community as well and a good role model for the kids. With all that said, I also definitely think Cam is nearing the end of his career and could extend it some with a decent backup role that who knows could transition him into some coaching if he was interested. I'm a Cam fan and think the world of him but I'm also a realist and can see that his skills have diminished as the physical toll on his body has taken it's place. I feel like someone can still be a Cam fan and yet also be able to admit he isn't quite what he once was but still could have Great value as a leader in a backup role mentoring a young QB on this team. Cam is a Panther and i am sentimental I know but I would love to find out he was willing to transition into something more with the team that who knows but could end up benefitting the team in a huge way behind the scenes.

[onmyown]

Cam would cost unnecessary money to bring back next year. Just like this year. Another dumbass move by Rhule. Could have rolled it over.

Now if a QB is drafted and Cam will come back for pennies while that rookie sits until mid season and Darnold just cut, I have no problems with that. Pretty sure Cam isn’t going to go for it though. Anything more than pennies/one year would be stupid.

But cam isn’t winning anything and Darnold is already paid so really it doesn’t matter. On top of that someone needs to lay it out to Rhule he can’t just keep mortgaging the future of this franchise going through is own dumbass mistakes to find his guy.

Stick with Darnold or Cam for pennies and sit a QB should he be drafted and don’t, under any circumstance, touch 2023 picks. That’s truly his ‘process’, this ‘process’ should not consist of Rhule constantly changing his tune when he fugs up at the sacrifice of the future of the franchise.

Edited January 4, 2022 by onmyown

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Cam hasn't had a legit opportunity to prove his value to a team as a starting Qb. He needs a FULL OFFSEASON with his teammates and coaches going into the year. The last 2 stops he's had to learn the playbook on the fly while playing in A W F U L offenses, like legit some of the worst offenses in NFL history not even looking at the QB. How can anyone say with a straight face either places have been a good measuring stick for Cam Newton's ability to continue to be a starting Qb in the NFL.

Sure, he can't do it all like before and needs to be surrounded by a solid offensive line, TEs, and Wrs. It isn't much to ask for to not have Damiere fuging Byrd as your #1 WR. It isn't much to ask for to not to have your two offensive guards both score a 0.0 blocking grade for the day. If Cam got a full offseason to learn a playbook and his teammates and then came out and played like sh*t I'd agree with you morons. But that's not the case.

A team's #1 job is to make their Qb feel comfortable so he can go out and execute at a high level. Tell me, how has Cam or any other QB for that matter supposed to feel comfortable in the situations he's been in the last 2 seasons? Impossible.

Edited January 4, 2022 by Mr Mojo Risin

[onmyown]

20 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Cam hasn't had a legit opportunity to prove his value to a team as a starting Qb. He needs a FULL OFFSEASON with his teammates and coaches going into the year. The last 2 stops he's had to learn the playbook on the fly while playing in A W F U L offenses, like legit some of the worst offenses in NFL history not even looking at the QB. How can anyone say with a straight face either places have been a good measuring stick for Cam Newton's ability to continue to be a starting Qb in the NFL.

Sure, he can't do it all like before and needs to be surrounded by a solid offensive line, TEs, and Wrs. It isn't much to ask for to not have Damiere fuging Byrd as your #1 WR. It isn't much to ask for to not to have your two offensive guards both score a 0.0 blocking grade for the day. If Cam got a full offseason to learn a playbook and his teammates and then came out and played like sh*t I'd agree with you morons. But that's not the case.

A team's #1 job is to make their Qb feel comfortable so he can go out and execute at a high level. Tell me, how has Cam or any other QB for that matter supposed to feel comfortable in the situations he's been in the last 2 seasons? Impossible.

A perfect scenario where cam gets great coaching, fair refs, superb weapons and an above average oline is unrealistic. There are quite a few qbs that would thrive with all that, it doesn’t make him special.

Fact is we need a qb for the future and one who can handle things when they’re not perfect, like Cam was over a half decade ago. That’s not him. He’s a mentor/backup at this point for a variety of reasons. But aside from that, the Panthers are a couple, if not several years from providing this perfect qb scenario you describe.

Had we had this perfect scenario qbs like Stafford are a better option. But we don’t have it, and are why he said no.

[Brooklyn 3.0]