Sam Howell declares for the draft

[NYPantherFan]

Dude is a more mobile Will Grier. No thanks.

[Smithers]

8 hours ago, Varking said:

I worry Pickett is just an older dude finally playing good in college ball because he’s older than the majority of kids he’s against. His fifth year of college ball finally got him over 15 touchdown passes in a season and that concerns me.  

Burrow had a similar career path - he’s showing his final season was no fluke 

[Wes21]

8 hours ago, Varking said:

I worry Pickett is just an older dude finally playing good in college ball because he’s older than the majority of kids he’s against. His fifth year of college ball finally got him over 15 touchdown passes in a season and that concerns me.  

I remember I said that about Jimmy Clausen, who was dang near 20 playing high school football. LOL

[Matthias]

The only place I ever hear folks talking about Sam Howell, is here.  We got too many homers.  

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If by trust, you mean you feel that the player is a sure fire NFL success, then there is no college qb ever that I trusted.  To many examples of sure fire hits that ended up failing for me to trust them.  Until they prove otherwise, this year's batch has the same chance of success as last year's.  

Trust as in believe they have more of a chance of being success than a failure. I would put the odds of NFL success for this entire class at less than 50%. JMO, obviously but it's a very, very weak QB class.

[Ivan The Awesome]

I'm a UNC die hard and I don't want him.. tf. xD

[Jay Roosevelt]

There are things I like about Howell, but I feel he is massively overrated here due to UNC homerism.

[4Corners]

9 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

There are things I like about Howell, but I feel he is massively overrated here due to UNC homerism.

What homerism? Most people don’t like him or thinks he sucks because they are a bunch of Duke basketball fans or NCST fans on here 

Edited January 2, 2022 by 4Corners

[PanthersGOATFan336]

1 minute ago, 4Corners said:

What homerism? Most people don’t like him or thinks he sucks because they are a bunch of Duke basketball fans 

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Trust as in believe they have more of a chance of being success than a failure. I would put the odds of NFL success for this entire class at less than 50%. JMO, obviously but it's a very, very weak QB class.

I agree that the odds are less than  50%, but I think the odds are less than 50% for almost any class.  I think the odds are less than 50% overall for last year's class.   In fact, if you look at it realistically, there are may 10-15 solid qb's in the NFL right now.  And probably 3 or so are drafted in the first round every year.  So it would seem that well over 50% of qb's drafted in the first round don't succeed.  

Edited January 2, 2022 by Davidson Deac II

[WOW!!]

2 hours ago, Smithers said:

Burrow had a similar career path - he’s showing his final season was no fluke 

So 1 QB does the 1 year wonder thing and that's the norm now??

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I agree that the odds are less than  50%, but I think the odds are less than 50% for almost any class.  I think the odds are less than 50% overall for last year's class.   In fact, if you look at it realistically, there are may 10-15 solid qb's in the NFL right now.  And probably 3 or so are drafted in the first round every year.  So it would seem that well over 50% of qb's drafted in the first round don't succeed.  

I mean less than 50% for each prospect individually. 

We just aren't going to agree on this. I view this as a bad QB draft class and you don't. It is what it is.

I certainly hope that the team doesn't share your rosy view because I don't really want to see us end up in further QB purgatory as we go down this Cleveland Browns road we are currently on.

[WOW!!]

46 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

What homerism? Most people don’t like him or thinks he sucks because they are a bunch of Duke basketball fans or NCST fans on here 

Bs.. If it was Julius Peppers nobody had a problem with picking him no matter what college Basketball team they root for.. If Sam was a can't miss prospect in a highly rated draft class we would love to grab him.. But that isn't the case..

[Bartin]

Trade down 9 times, draft 14 OL because they can't all suck then let Darnold fail for another year, fire Rhule then draft the Bama or Ohio State QB in 2023 with the #1 pick