Tepper embarrassed by Rhule. Rhule lost locker room.

[BlitzMonster]

33 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

I don't know that there are many, if any, sports reporters that would be willing to write this article and expect to remain on friendly terms w/the Panthers organization.  That is, unless someone within the Panthers organization has encouraged Person to write/publish it.

If that is the case, it may indicate the Panthers public relations people are laying the groundwork for a decision that has already been made, Rhule's firing. 

That's how I'm interpreting it as well.

[ThPantherFan]

7 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

Why wait?

I agree!

[ThPantherFan]

7 hours ago, BIGH2001 said:

That doesn’t add up to the conclusion that he should return unless tepper just don’t want to saddle the new coach with Sam as his QB.

Something I haven't thought about.  Good one.

[Call Me James]

No draft capital and a Sam darnold strapped team probably isn't enticing, but if we're going to stink next year I'd rather it be under someone else. 

[ThPantherFan]

7 hours ago, Ja Rhule said:

We are paying Darnold $20M and trade away most of our best draft picks.  We fuged the pooch big time with Rhule hire.

Yes we did.

[BlitzMonster]

2 minutes ago, ThPantherFan said:

Yes we did.

The Darnold deal is only a one year mistake.  As unpleasant as it is, I can live with that. 

If dead man walking Rhule does something crazy like trade 3 first round picks for Deshaun Watson, the franchise is screwed.  

[glenwo2]

10 hours ago, BlitzMonster said:

The Darnold deal is only a one year mistake.  As unpleasant as it is, I can live with that. 

If dead man walking Rhule does something crazy like trade 3 first round picks for Deshaun Watson, the franchise is screwed.  

Exactly.  Thank god it was only a 1-year mistake. 

But if the latter happens, holy sh*t.....

[Jmac]

21 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

Why wait?

Looks like free Sunday's for 2022..have to get that hobby going again.

[Beast_3000]

21 hours ago, BlitzMonster said:

If all this is true (which I think it likely is) then Rhule needs to immediately lose all personnel control.   No trading players or drafting guys in 2022 to save his skin.  The long term interests of the team need to take precedence over Rhule's desperation to keep his job.  

Best comment in this thread. He needs to coach his way out of the hole he created without any further damage. That’s if he can, which isn’t likely. He would need to hire new offensive and defensive cords. I know the defensive coordinator idea isn’t as popular but I thunk we can do better. 

[Doc Holiday]

22 hours ago, BIGH2001 said:

That doesn’t add up to the conclusion that he should return unless tepper just don’t want to saddle the new coach with Sam as his QB.

I think it’s that, and a lot of Rhule’s mistakes would be off the books by then, and the new coach would actually have a draft. 
 

Rhule already set next year up for failure, Bad new contracts, no draft picks, not a lot of salary cap. Thankfully after next season as long as they don’t do anything stupid this year we should be sitting pretty.

what we need to do this year is focus on keeping a few key starters and focus on the O-line. Chances are we will suck next year so would be nice actually having our draft picks too

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, Beast_3000 said:

Best comment in this thread. He needs to coach his way out of the hole he created without any further damage. That’s if he can, which isn’t likely. He would need to hire new offensive and defensive cords. I know the defensive coordinator idea isn’t as popular but I thunk we can do better. 

The thing is that the “complete control” of the head coach is likely contractual and not a hand-shake agreement.  Ergo, there’s only ONE way to ensure that Rhule doesn’t mortgage more of the organization's future to save his own skin: fire him and eat the contract before he has the opportunity.

[SizzleBuzz]

On 12/31/2021 at 9:03 AM, Ja Rhule said:

Yet, Rhule is set to return in 2022. 
 

The Athletic's Joseph Person reports Panthers owner David Tepper is "unhappy and embarrassed" by the team's performance under head coach Matt Rhule. 

Rhule, who has lost 21 of his 31 games as Carolina's head coach, said this week that Tepper has “nothing but confidence about me and the future and moving forward." Often citing "the process," Rhule has preached patience with his underperforming Panthers, who have flailed wildly over the past year in search of a franchise quarterback. They inexplicably settled on Sam Darnold before the 2021 NFL Draft, only to see him flounder after a promising start to the season. Panthers players have reportedly grown deeply skeptical of Rhule's "process," criticizing his micromanaging approach to coaching. “The proof’s in the pudding,” said one veteran personnel official. “The product on the field is bad.” Expect 2022 to be Rhule's final year as Carolina's head coach barring a miraculous turnaround. 

Don't see anything about "losing the locker room" in there.  

This "locker room is lost" assertion keeps getting tossed out there but there's no evidence as such...

...in fact, the alpha dog came out in support of Coach Rhule:

 

[BurnNChinn]

17 hours ago, BlitzMonster said:

The Darnold deal is only a one year mistake.  As unpleasant as it is, I can live with that. 

If dead man walking Rhule does something crazy like trade 3 first round picks for Deshaun Watson, the franchise is screwed.  

Don’t worry Watson already said he don’t wAnt to come here, here turned down the trade clause to come here.

[BurnNChinn]

2 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Don't see anything about "losing the locker room" in there.  

This "locker room is lost" assertion keeps getting tossed out there but there's no evidence as such...

...in fact, the alpha dog came out in support of Coach Rhule:

 

It’s been in a couple reports by media, maybe u need to look and read a little better. You just post what u want it  to be, that u Rhule?