HOF Finalist (2 former Panthers make the cut)

[OneBadCat]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

voters are largely all media guys.  Media has been brutal to Cam since Auburn.  It would take him a long time to get in and probably all the guys who covered him to no longer be voters IMO. 

I can already imagine the "Couldn't read a defense, not a drop back passer" arguments from the cuck racists. Even the clown show that is Mark Sanchez was spewing that bullshit on the broadcast last Sunday.

[BrianS]

13 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Cam is probably a longshot, sadly. His career was just so short for being so bright.

As much as I like Cam, he is nowhere near HoF quality.

Ever adding his rushing yards to his passing yards, he's in the company (yards wise) of Dave Krieg, Boomer Esiason, Donovan McNabb and Matt Hasselbeck.  Add his rushing TD's to his passing TD's and you get . . . Dave Krieg, Vinny Testaverde and Russell Wilson.

Those aren't the right numbers.  He didn't win the SB.

The one glimmer of hope we have for him is that he did win an MVP.  It's rare, but not unheard of, for a former league MVP to not end up there.

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, BrianS said:

As much as I like Cam, he is nowhere near HoF quality.

Ever adding his rushing yards to his passing yards, he's in the company (yards wise) of Dave Krieg, Boomer Esiason, Donovan McNabb and Matt Hasselbeck.  Add his rushing TD's to his passing TD's and you get . . . Dave Krieg, Vinny Testaverde and Russell Wilson.

Those aren't the right numbers.  He didn't win the SB.

The one glimmer of hope we have for him is that he did win an MVP.  It's rare, but not unheard of, for a former league MVP to not end up there.

HOF shouldn't just be about what the stats add up on a sheet at the end of the day. 

for example this post to a degree....suggests Vinny T and Russell Wilson are comparable.  They aren't. 

Vinny T simply played in the NFL for 21 years.  21 years.  

London Fletcher isn't a better LB and more deserving of the HOF than Luke Kuechly.  

 

 

Cam was a uniquely dominant player.  One that stands alone in the modern NFL.  That's why he has a HOF arguement.  

 

[RumHam]

15 hours ago, CRA said:

Sam Mills and Jared Allen are finalist 

89 didn’t make the cut.  3 first year guys did make the cut.  Ware.  Hester.  And…….Andre Johnson. 

Holt, Wayne, Johnson are the 3 WRs.  Hester too but we all know he is a ST HOFer. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/finalists-for-pro-football-hall-of-fame-class-of-2022-revealed

Makes no sense for Smitty. The NFL wants everyone on their network to be a hall of famer and is probably a major reason Smitty is doing television there. Hester I kinda get, Ware absolutely should not be in. Smitty was better than Andre Johnson. Sam Mills better make it this time.

[micnificent28]

I mean if you made a argument for Hester I get it. Even for andre to an extent. These guys are great as well. Buy I don't think you can make the case Johnson should be in before smitty I'd the thing.

[rah53]

Andre Johnson over Steve Smith?? Please! Steve Smith was snubbed big time here. Smith is 1 of only 3 players in history to have the receiving triple crown. Total BS he didn't make the final cut.

[rayzor]

No way should Smitty be taking a back seat to Andre Johnson. What an insult.

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, BrianS said:

As much as I like Cam, he is nowhere near HoF quality.

Ever adding his rushing yards to his passing yards, he's in the company (yards wise) of Dave Krieg, Boomer Esiason, Donovan McNabb and Matt Hasselbeck.  Add his rushing TD's to his passing TD's and you get . . . Dave Krieg, Vinny Testaverde and Russell Wilson.

Those aren't the right numbers.  He didn't win the SB.

The one glimmer of hope we have for him is that he did win an MVP.  It's rare, but not unheard of, for a former league MVP to not end up there.

The longer he plays, the further he is from the HOF too. Sad to say.

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I mean if you made a argument for Hester I get it. Even for andre to an extent. These guys are great as well. Buy I don't think you can make the case Johnson should be in before smitty I'd the thing.

Hester I would put in ahead of Smitty because he is the greatest returner of all time.

Johnson, though? Absolutely not.

[CRA]

44 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The longer he plays, the further he is from the HOF too. Sad to say.

Some truth here.  If he walked after his injury his odds would be better.    Last couple years have been bad for the story on Cam. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Some truth here.  If he walked after his injury his odds would be better.    Last couple years have been bad for the story on Cam. 

Yeah, it doesn't help the "injury" storyline, even if it is true.

I can't hate the man for wanting to still play. I just hate to see him as a shell of his former self.

[BrianS]

28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, it doesn't help the "injury" storyline, even if it is true.

I can't hate the man for wanting to still play. I just hate to see him as a shell of his former self.

Oh, 100%.

Had Cam not been injured, I suspect that he'd have a ring by now and Rivera would still be our coach.