I gotta say it.

[motocross_cat]

2 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

wondering if motocross has ever worn a helmet when he's doing his ridin

I do but I must admit,  sometimes I still don't know where I am after a big hit.

Edited December 26, 2021 by motocross_cat

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, AU-panther said:

so points don't matter?

Nope.

[AU-panther]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Nope.

I thought that is how we decide who wins and loses...

 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

I thought that is how we decide who wins and loses...

It is.

It is not, however, the metric they use to determine top overall defense. That's based on yards.

Pretty sure of you check the rankings for points given up, you'll find we're ranked somewhat lower than second.

Edited December 26, 2021 by Mr. Scot

[L-TownCat]

The unit itself doesn’t suck.  You are correct there.  However, situationally they are vulnerable to a power attack, virtually nullifying the most potent aspects of the system.  Pass rush and coverage.

If you can’t stop the run, you won’t see many passes.  Hence the inflated pass d statistics.

Its flawed therefore ineffective or as previously stated, they suck.

[CBDellinger]

This d sucks against the run. Good teams run the ball late in the year.  

The end. 

[PantherPhann89]

Our defense needs a versatile run stuffer king Vea in the middle.

[Shocker]

Sorry OP this board hates everything now

[WarPanthers89]

10 minutes ago, motocross_cat said:

My point is the fact that our defense has done as well as they have given the fact that our offense gives the opposition the ball back over and over and over should not be over looked.  This teams woes are not on that side of the ball.  How can you watch these games and not see that?

You are correct but people have knee jerk reaction to anything positive  because we want the team burned to the ground for sucking so bad. They definitely do not look like a top defense to me….but they are light years ahead of our offense which is about as bad as it gets. 

[AU-panther]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It is.

It is not, however, the metric they use to determine top overall defense.

That's based on yards.

You are actually hurting your argument here, we are 2nd in the league in yards allowed.

2021 NFL Team Total Defense Stats | ESPN

NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Yards per Game | TeamRankings.com

 

[FugginPoo]

Panthers have a good defense

[Fox007]

9 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

I thought that is how we decide who wins and loses...

 

 

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It is.

It is not, however, the metric they use to determine top overall defense. That's based on yards.

Pretty sure of you check the rankings for points given up, you'll find we're ranked somewhat lower than second.

That's right...that's why we are the 19th ranked defense in the NFL

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T&sort=ptsgm

Where the fug do these fools come from saying we are the 2nd ranked defense...its been a long time since week 3 you fools.

[panthers55]

22 minutes ago, motocross_cat said:

If you are out here blaming or smacking the defense just stop and think for a second.  They are # 2 in the NFL and our offense is almost dead last.  What they have been able to do this season in reality is a fuging miracle considering our turnovers, inability to complete a forward pass and losing the best player on the team....again.

They have good overall numbers but situationally they are terrible. How many 3rd and longs have we given up. How many three and outs. Tampa has 60% of their offense out today and they have 250 yards in the first half and almost 100 in the ground. Absolutely the defense is terrible due to  a crappy scheme even though our personnel might be pretty good. You clearly see but don't understand.

[Davidson Deac II]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Don't base your judgment of any NFL unit on a statistical ranking.

Anything other than stats is just an opinion and is probably flawed.   That being said, its clear the team (with one or two exceptions) has given up and is already thinking about the offseason.  

Edited December 26, 2021 by Davidson Deac II