Sam Darnold likely starting again for last few games

[KillaCamNewton]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Have you not seen Sam Darnold play? Your post indicates you have not.

He is not capable of playing QB in the NFL. At all. 

This isn't new information. This is now 3+ years old information.

I unfortunately sat in section 124 all season watching Sam Darnold

what QB in this system under this coach with this OLine has looked capable of playing QB for a sustained period of time? 

[rippadonn]

THIS TEAM HATES ITS FANS!

Get this college sht outta here! You start a QB in the NFL. 1QB

[KillaCamNewton]

2 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

None of us want Sam for the long term. We all know we need someone else to lead us the rest of the decade if we intend to be successful.

We're saying that if we're paying 18 mil he might as well play until we (hopefully) find a replacement after 2022.

I don't think a top FA will want to come here next season. We don't have a promising QB on the roster, and this is a down year in terms of top college QB prospects. It is suppose to be a good year for lineman. Use our picks there and roll with Darnold in 2022. The QB job will much more desirable in Carolina if a new QB had a good blocking line protecting him.

 

Why is this so hard to understand lol

[rippadonn]

This again is Rhule putting himself before the team.

Robby said what he said about Cam for a reason.

Edited December 26, 2021 by rippadonn

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, SCO96 said:

None of us want Sam for the long term. We all know we need someone else to lead us the rest of the decade if we intend to be successful.

We're saying that if we're paying 18 mil he might as well play until we (hopefully) find a replacement after 2022.

I don't think a top FA will want to come here next season. We don't have a promising QB on the roster, and this is a down year in terms of top college QB prospects. It is suppose to be a good year for lineman. Use our picks there and roll with Darnold in 2022. The QB job will much more desirable in Carolina if a new QB had a good blocking line protecting him.

 

If we with Darnold in 2022, we will be in contention for the #1 overall draft pick, so I guess that is desirable, ultimately. I guess the question is, once Rhule is fired, will the damage be so bad that we will have to rebuild all over again? Will be stuck in Browns/Bengals territory for a decade or more? 

That sounds reactionary but we are technically less accomplished franchises than either of them and are teetering on the ledge. It won't take much of a push to send us there. 

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Oh Sam has a worse chance to win that Cam, that's not even a real debate anymore. 

But the odds of winning with a non-P5 caliber coaching staff are definitely low regardless.

Not sure I agree that Sam is worse than Cam who is really struggling. The desire is there but the passing isn't. If Sam plays like he did the last several games he shouldn't be anything but a backup and only because we had to keep him as he gets paid regardless. Otherwise he needs to go too. But we have nothing to lose playing Darnold and if he sucks our draft position is great.

[countryboi]

Sam is not an NFL QB, he is going to fail and Cam is most likely going to fail so it doesn’t matter. 

[rippadonn]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Not sure I agree that Sam is worse than Cam who is really struggling. The desire is there but the passing isn't. If Sam plays like he did the last several games he shouldn't be anything but a backup and only because we had to keep him as he gets paid regardless. Otherwise he needs to go too. But we have nothing to lose playing Darnold and if he sucks our draft position is great.

I'd say Cam has done very well coming off the couch to learn a crap system. Rhule is struggling.

[Tr3ach]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Oh Sam has a worse chance to win that Cam, that's not even a real debate anymore. 

But the odds of winning with a non-P5 caliber coaching staff are definitely low regardless.

How do you get thats not a debate?  Sam started the season 3-0 and put up big numbers in week 4.  Cam is 0-12 in his last 12 starts.  It's time for some fans to acknowledge that NEITHER of these qbs are going to carry a team to victory at the present time.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Tr3ach said:

How do you get thats not a debate?  Sam started the season 3-0 and put up big numbers in week 4.  Cam is 0-12 in his last 12 starts.  It's time for some fans to acknowledge that NEITHER of these qbs are going to carry a team to victory at the present time.

Of course it isn't a debate because I have functional eyes and a functional brain. Sam Darnold has been the worst QB in the NFL for almost 4 seasons now. That's statistically accurate. 

Cam is a shell of himself but almost any QB or backup QB in the NFL is better than Sam Darnold. 

Feel free to think otherwise but I assume you also thought Jimmy Clausen just didn't get the right opportunities. 

[panthers55]

8 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

I'd say Cam has done very well coming off the couch to learn a crap system. Rhule is struggling.

Can't say I disagree the system sucks.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Can't say I disagree the system sucks.

The list of things this staff does that don't suck is pretty short.

[panthers55]

Cam is doing it again. Looking great on the first drive at home. Can we please keep it up and play well in all three phases for once and give our long suffering home fans something to get excited about.

[rippadonn]

Phil Snow interim. That's the only guy I'd keep.