At Least we dont have nagy....

[mc52beast]

Rhule and Nagy are basically one and the same. Look at the decisions both have made and the affect they have had on their teams… it’s almost identical.

[ECHornet]

4 hours ago, X-Clown said:

Now that’s funny. 

While you’re laughing, go look up Nagy’s record in Chicago with Trubisky at QB vs any other QB (including Fields). 

[X-Clown]

1 hour ago, ECHornet said:

While you’re laughing, go look up Nagy’s record in Chicago with Trubisky at QB vs any other QB (including Fields). 

Win-loss records are not a QB statistic. If they were then maybe your boy would have gotten a starting job this off-season, or would have had his 5th year option picked up.

Edited December 22, 2021 by X-Clown

[onmyown]

12 hours ago, Martin said:

This years super hyped rookie QB class has been very underwhelming in the games I’ve seen. There are a few wow throws in there, but overall meh. 

That’s just how it is. Rookie QBs historically look bad some don’t even play and ride bench year 1. Recently for example…Allen, Murray, Mahomes, even Rodgers sat forever…Burrow and Jackson were underwhelming year one, everyone expects a Wilson like entrance that happens like once every 3-4 years.

It’s VERY VERY rare a rookie comes in a right away and lights it up. Especially because most go to poo teams. That means a lot, it’s no coincidence the rookie qb doing the best, also went last of the top 5 qbs, to the better team than any of them.

At least one if not two, maybe three  of the top four qbs other than Mac (who will probably always be good, not great in the future) are going to turn out good to great.

[ECHornet]

12 hours ago, X-Clown said:

Win-loss records are not a QB statistic. If they were then maybe your boy would have gotten a starting job this off-season, or would have had his 5th year option picked up.

Difficult for Trubisky to do either when he’s the scapegoat for the coach/fans. All Nagy needed was his QB, they said. Foles came and proved worse than Mitch. Well then the narrative switched bc they have a ‘young franchise QB’ that will carry the team to success. Womp womp. He turned in a first year also worse than Trubisky. Maybe, just maybe, it’s Nagy’s terrible system combined with a bottom of the league skill position group. 
 

Lets see what opportunities he gets this off-season. Whether you want to admit it or not, we would be a better team this year with Mitch than any of the QBs on our roster. It also wouldn’t have cost as much as we spent for terrible QB play. A long-term, high-end QB2 contract would have likely done it. Look where we are now and look at the Bears. Both suck and would’ve have been better off with Mitch. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

Us not having Nagy doesn’t make me feel any better. 

[X-Clown]

1 hour ago, ECHornet said:

Difficult for Trubisky to do either when he’s the scapegoat for the coach/fans. All Nagy needed was his QB, they said. Foles came and proved worse than Mitch. Well then the narrative switched bc they have a ‘young franchise QB’ that will carry the team to success. Womp womp. He turned in a first year also worse than Trubisky. Maybe, just maybe, it’s Nagy’s terrible system combined with a bottom of the league skill position group. 
 

Lets see what opportunities he gets this off-season. Whether you want to admit it or not, we would be a better team this year with Mitch than any of the QBs on our roster. It also wouldn’t have cost as much as we spent for terrible QB play. A long-term, high-end QB2 contract would have likely done it. Look where we are now and look at the Bears. Both suck and would’ve have been better off with Mitch. 

Foles was a fraud too, but can you honestly say without UNC homer glasses on that Mitchell's play deserved a 24.8 million dollar 5th year option and/or a major contract extension? 

 

My first post in the thread said that yes, Nagy's system sucks. But you're at the same time saying that Fields supposively sucks because his stats aren't good and they aren't winning? I also see little to no difference in how both QBs performed in their rookie year, not sure why you're categorizing that one was so much better than the other. If the expectation was that Fields was going to come in on day one an immediately elevate the team to a super bowl contender, that's just ridiculous. It was Nagy after all who signed Andy Dalton in the offseason and lauded Andy as his starter when healthy until it was clear that was a terrible idea. And yes, the Bears are better off paying Fields who has more upside and is on a rookie deal than Trubisky at 25 million plus.

Mitchell is better than Darnold and Walker I will concede that, although it isn't saying much. But I can't imagine that he would fare much better in Matt Rhule's poo system either.

Edited December 22, 2021 by X-Clown

[4Corners]

Two seasons ago, Nagy was honored at Wrigley Field by singing Take me out to the ball game at the 7th inning stretch. 
 

everyone knows how this song goes, he subtly said “penis” instead of “peanuts” and cracker jacks. You can find this video and watch it for yourself. 
 

this was a huge red flag - it shows immaturity, a lack of respect, and it just isn’t funny. Big surprise he is about to be fired for being a loser. 

[Anybodyhome]

On 12/21/2021 at 11:32 AM, stbugs said:

All of them have potential that our QBs do not.

Potential is limited by the playbook.

Nick Foles won a Super Bowl over the Tom Brady Patriots.

Trubisky went to the post season with the Bears.

Fields is supposed to be a franchise QB.

None of those 3 facts look further from reality right now. And Matt Rhule is far worse than Nagy.

[CPcavedweller]

On 12/20/2021 at 10:42 PM, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Rhule and Nagy both suck. At least they have a young franchise QB

Just Fields and Sam Darnold are the same age, or close to it, I believe. 

Sam would've been fine if the Panthers had resolved our OL issues. Instead we brought Darnold onto a team where our offensive line is worse than the Jets. What's that thing about the definition of insanity?

[Varking]

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

Just Fields and Sam Darnold are the same age, or close to it, I believe. 

Sam would've been fine if the Panthers had resolved our OL issues. Instead we brought Darnold onto a team where our offensive line is worse than the Jets. What's that thing about the definition of insanity?

Fields is two years younger. Born on March 5, 1999.
Darnold was born on June 5, 1997. 

[PanthersGOATFan336]

2 hours ago, 4Corners said:

Two seasons ago, Nagy was honored at Wrigley Field by singing Take me out to the ball game at the 7th inning stretch. 
 

everyone knows how this song goes, he subtly said “penis” instead of “peanuts” and cracker jacks. You can find this video and watch it for yourself. 
 

this was a huge red flag - it shows immaturity, a lack of respect, and it just isn’t funny. Big surprise he is about to be fired for being a loser. 

Edited December 22, 2021 by PanthersGOATFan336

[CPcavedweller]

21 hours ago, Varking said:

Fields is two years younger. Born on March 5, 1999.
Darnold was born on June 5, 1997. 

So in QB years, not a lot of difference there. Darnold could be a guy. The Panthers could've drafted Fields and we would still be just as screwed. This offensive line is horrible.

[Varking]

10 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

So in QB years, not a lot of difference there. Darnold could be a guy. The Panthers could've drafted Fields and we would still be just as screwed. This offensive line is horrible.

Two years is a lot of time for young quarterbacks.