At the very least Rhule should lose personel decisions.

[jayboogieman]

41 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

How would picking slater been a reach? 

He was also 1B to Sewell's 1A and in some cases, the 1A as far as tackles went.

[45catfan]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

They did and only the bears made an offer.  Trading back in the first is not as easy as just saying you are going to trade back.  It will/should take a kings ransom to move off of a top 10 pick. 

 

How would picking slater been a reach?  He is an all pro right now.  He has started from day 1.  There was never going to be an adjustment period for him.  He was always a plug and play left tackle.  Rhule and his dumb ass arm length fuged that up tremendously.   I never understand the BPA strategy or calling picks a reach etc.  If you scouted the player, if that position is a need and said player comes in and is productive how the fug is that a "reach".  Trust your scouting process. 

The reason we didn't bite on the Bears offer is because the team was stuck on a CB and was worried both of the guys they were targeting would be gone.  Surtain went the very next pick. That part, they correct on. 

Edited December 13, 2021 by 45catfan

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

The reason we didn't bite on the Bears offer is because the team was stuck on a CB and was worried both of the guys they were targeting would be gone.  Surtain went the very next pick. That part, they correct on. 

I read the offer wasnt enough

[Pimpdaddy]

4 hours ago, Chosen Newton said:

Why is everyone acting like the defense is not the problem..we got big ticket cj Henderson and stephon Gilmore and yet we're still giving up 28 points to ATL without calvin Ridley. Phil snow should have been let go with joe brady, this defense can't get a stop for their life. 

....said they really havent made a stop when it mattered since the 3rd qrt of the jets game....

[LinvilleGorge]

No, Rhule needs to be fired. Period.

[Basbear]

I agree, his two year QB solutions were like a Mumbai sewage blowback. OL has also been a joke given the choices. 

[raleigh-panther]

3 hours ago, AndrewLaskoski said:

Coming into the week, the Panthers were 6th in points allowed at 19.8 points per game. 

The defense is obviously flawed but it’s been good so far this season

I’ll ask the question again 

when did they stop a game winning drive this season. 

I dont care about points allowed.  

Did they stop WFT.  the Giants , the Cowboys, the Falcons, the Vikings, the Eagles the list goes on and you can soon add to it the bills. Bucs and Saints. The Saints won’t be missing  6 coache’s and 5 players this time  

if they had played  the cardinals with Murray and Hopkins, they would have torn Snows defense to pieces

Edited December 13, 2021 by raleigh-panther

[AndrewLaskoski]

14 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

I’ll ask the question again 

when did they stop a game winning drive this season. 

I dont care about points allowed.  

Did they stop WFT.  the Giants , the Cowboys, the Falcons, the Vikings, the Eagles the list goes on and you can soon add to it the bills. Bucs and Saints. The Saints won’t be missing  6 coache’s and 5 players this time  

if they had played  the cardinals with Murray and Hopkins, they would have torn Snows defense to pieces

Stephon Gilmore intercepted the ball with 1:53 left against the Falcons when they were driving and sealed the game. So the answer to your question is week 8.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401326437

Every team has injuries/issues so you can't hold the oppositions injuries against the Panthers. Would the Panthers have won the Vikings/Eagles games with a healthy CMC? Probably but those teams don't care, they got the W. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just look at the comments that are starting to be made by our players. There's no covering it up now. There's zero accountability within this organization right now and zero leadership. Rhule has to go. Best of luck to the next guy trying to clean up this colossal mess he's made. Damn Tepper... you blew the fug out of that call.

 

[Icege]

10 hours ago, Zod said:

He has basically been coach/gm in terms of talent acquisition.

 

It's obvious he sucks at it and that is a huge reason for the mess we are in.

 

If you aren't going to fire Rhule, then at least hand off all personel decisions to Fitterer and Morgan. 

You know, with the way that the roster is currently structured in that this team is basically what we're looking at next year with few resources to do much tinkering with, it almost feels like we have to just ride with the poo show next season so that when 2023 starts the team will have draft capital + plenty of cap space to work with.

This is as close to a Houston situation as we can be sans the Deshaun Watson fiasco. Unless the new coaching staff is getting to treat next season like "year 0" with expectations to simply be "don't regress" in the following season... idk... this just doesn't seem like an attractive head coaching destination currently. Granted, there's only 32 of those spots so they're attractive regardless, but this is ass.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Icege

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, Icege said:

You know, with the way that the roster is currently structured in that this team is basically what we're looking at next year with few resources to do much tinkering with, it almost feels like we have to just ride with the poo show next season so that when 2023 starts the team will have draft capital + plenty of cap space to work with.

This is as close to a Houston situation as we can be sans the Deshaun Watson fiasco. Unless the new coaching staff is getting to treat next season like "year 0" with expectations to simply be "don't regress" in the following season... idk... this just doesn't seem like an attractive head coaching destination currently. Granted, there's only 32 of those spots so they're attractive regardless, but this is ass.

I've gotta believe there is already a lot here for a new coaching staff to work with.  Bring in/draft a couple of competent linemen and an average or better QB and this team is at least competitive enough to be entertaining. 

That should give most fans hope for the future.  In 2023, the second year of the new coaching staff, they could make some serious changes as needed.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

At this point it is incumbent on Dave Tepper to stop the bleeding.  That translates into getting rid of Rhule and bringing in an experienced NFL coach with a proven record of success.

Edited December 14, 2021 by NanuqoftheNorth

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Monday Dec 27th will be wild. 

[L-TownCat]

19 hours ago, Chosen Newton said:

Why is everyone acting like the defense is not the problem..we got big ticket cj Henderson and stephon Gilmore and yet we're still giving up 28 points to ATL without calvin Ridley. Phil snow should have been let go with joe brady, this defense can't get a stop for their life. 

They’re playing patty cake out there.  No fire, getting blown off the los and I saw an Olineman blocking a safety 15 yards down field.  We have 4/3 DTs and 3/4 linebackers.  Complete with stand up edge rushers that can’t set the edge in the run game.

Defense is a top dollar poo show.