My interest in this team is at an all time low

[DeeJay]

Kinda hope our GM is looking for new coaches because RHULE is a

[electro's horse]

people that post poo like this are really showing when they started following the panthers

you think this is bad? have i got a couple seasons for ya...

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

51 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

people that post poo like this are really showing when they started following the panthers

you think this is bad? have i got a couple seasons for ya...

I was too young for 2001 but I was there during 2009 and 2010 and this season is worse. 2010 you had hope for an incoming complete reset. This is a botched rebuild. Panthers wont sniff the playoffs at all this decade.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Sean Payton's Vicodin

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Also this is the first time the Panthers are by far the worst pro sports team in the Carolinas. Canes are great, Hornets are on the upswing with a young star, Panthers are just shitty with no notable players besides a run down Cam and CMC.

[electro's horse]

3 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

I was too young for 2001 but I was there during 2009 and 2010 and this season is worse. 2010 you had hope for an incoming complete reset. This is a botched rebuild. Panthers wont sniff the playoffs at all this decade.

panthers were last in the league for offense AND defense in 2001

[Wanderlai]

I think this franchise is in the worst spot it has ever been in. Can’t sniff wins with the players/coaches we have. Zero answers at QB.  The franchise RB has broken down and is on a trade killing contract. The new GM went trade happy so no draft capital. The shiny new coach and OC turned out to be snakeoil salesmen and we may be stuck with them. The owner has so much money does he really even care. The defense has fallen way off and can easily get the ball ran down their throat. In the years the team had a worse record there was hope in the draft or future...now not so much. It’s bad...real bad. We may replace the Jets as the leagues worst inept franchise. 

Edited November 30, 2021 by Wanderlai

[hepcat]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

people that post poo like this are really showing when they started following the panthers

you think this is bad? have i got a couple seasons for ya...

I’ve followed this team for 20+ years and I have to say based on some of the performances this season that the 2001 team would have a shot against these guys. 

[Proudiddy]

6 hours ago, CRA said:

I don’t see why people believe Fitterer is anything more than another bad hire by Tepper.  Tepper has been pretty consistent with everyone he has brought in.  

I just don’t get a guy that picked up Sam’s 5th year, traded away all our draft picks, etc….is the guy with the right vision to lead us.   And if you blame that all on Rhule? It still doesn’t speak much about our GM.  He watched it all happen and signed off.  

 

I do blame it on Rhule.  He did the same thing for Teddy and then vouched for Sam, and Fitt, coming in as the new guy, was trying to oblige the guy who clearly is calling the football shots in the building.  But, everything hinges on Rhulr and what he wants...  and yeah, Fitt traded picks to facilitate all of that, and everyone knows my stance on Sam from the beginning, but I believe he was trying to give Rhule what he believed he needed from the outset to build his "program."  Same with the Henderson trade...  That was a guy Rhule loved and vouched for because of the interactions he had with him the year prior.  Now that Fitt gave him all the tools he asked for and his team failed, someone else had to step in and make some decisions, i.e., forcing him to bring Cam back.  And now we're still losing, so its an even further indictment of the coaching staff and I feel the keys have been taken away at this point and we see what Fitt wants to do.

I believe in them because he comes from a proven program in Seattle that built a perennial contender.  The front office has guys like Morgan, Stewart and Sulaiman - all proven guys who are well-regarded league-wide from proven, established winning programs.  The front office is legit and I believe in them 100% for the reasons listed.  The issue is the coach and how much power he has had to this point.

We gave the chef the ingredients he asked for, and he still delivered a poo sandwich.  Time to let the football minds make the decisions and see where we go from there.

[BIGH2001]

2 hours ago, hepcat said:

I’ve followed this team for 20+ years and I have to say based on some of the performances this season that the 2001 team would have a shot against these guys. 

2001 lost a ton of games at the end of the game. They were more competitive than this group many weeks. Yes it was terrible but at least that team hadn’t spent 60 mil and 3 picks while failing to identify a franchise QB.

We also had all our draft picks in 02 and used the first 3 on peppers, deshaun foster and will Witherspoon, all key players on the 03 super bowl team.

Thanks to rhule and fitterer we’ve got one pick in rounds 1-3.

I see our situation now as objectively worse than 01. 

Edited November 30, 2021 by BIGH2001

[Actionman0z]

8 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

I respect that feeling, OP. I'm picking a new team next year unless Rhule gets fired. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to support this reeling pile of garbage. There's no heart, energy, intelligence, strategy or talent. 

Root for the chargers 

[cardiackat88.]

Ever since the Giants game it has felt like a total chore to watch this team.

The cardinals game was a breath of fresh air but ultimately may just be one golden night that could possibly resemble the end of a legends epic story (Cam and Cmac)

I all but had to force myself to watch the dolphins game.

I am

i am absolutely shocked there is still 5 games left (or however many are left I’ve honestly lost interest)

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I feel the Carolina Panthers best solution is to continue to grind out the season and maybe get to 7 or 8 wins by years end if we're lucky. Let the team continue to learn together through trial by fire. Rhule gets a 3rd and final year to show real improvement in the team which I feel is fair. We've added a lot of new players in a short amount of time, give them the rest of the year and an entire offseason to grow and learn together. Bring Cam back for at least 1 more year and let him, Darnold, and PJ battle it out in TC.

We have no draft picks. There are no Qbs worth tanking for in this draft, worst case scenario we suck even worse next year, fire Rhule, secure a top pick with a new HC that has a full draft at his disposal. Bringing in a new HC this offseason would do nothing productive. Let Rhule try and focus on the O-line, let Donte go in FA, resign Reddick, bring in some O-lineman and d-lineman and see if we can make a run at the playoffs next year.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Mr Mojo Risin

[Ricky Spanish]

12 hours ago, electro's horse said:

people that post poo like this are really showing when they started following the panthers

you think this is bad? have i got a couple seasons for ya...

I think 2001 had something like 5 blowouts with two coming the last two weeks of the season. The team was young and needed a new coach to come in and spark something for them but were still competitive in damn near every loss. 

So far this year we've already been blown out 4 times, we still have to play the buccs twice and the bills once, and our team seems to be getting worse as the season goes on. This time last year we were at least competitive. 

06-12 are a blur for me, I was in college and drank a lot, but I do remember 2007 where Tommy Jone took out our boy and then the shitshow that was the 2009 season where Jake's career finally died, leading to 2010 where we were actively rooting for the team to fail so we could draft Andrew Luck #1 overall, which turned into Cam when Luck stayed in school.

This season has the feel of 09 with less hope. At least we had the legend of Matt Moore to keep us interested going into the next year, anticipating that maybe we found ourselves the next Tony Romo.

This year we have nothing.

[hepcat]

11 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I think 2001 had something like 5 blowouts with two coming the last two weeks of the season. The team was young and needed a new coach to come in and spark something for them but were still competitive in damn near every loss. 

So far this year we've already been blown out 4 times, we still have to play the buccs twice and the bills once, and our team seems to be getting worse as the season goes on. This time last year we were at least competitive. 

06-12 are a blur for me, I was in college and drank a lot, but I do remember 2007 where Tommy Jone took out our boy and then the shitshow that was the 2009 season where Jake's career finally died, leading to 2010 where we were actively rooting for the team to fail so we could draft Andrew Luck #1 overall, which turned into Cam when Luck stayed in school.

This season has the feel of 09 with less hope. At least we had the legend of Matt Moore to keep us interested going into the next year, anticipating that maybe we found ourselves the next Tony Romo.

This year we have nothing.

We have Cam Newton’s corpse to root for again, that’s something!